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Personnel Question: Are your ancestors' who were born in the more early 1800's ancestors all from the same

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place? By place I mean a more specific place than country (county, state, provinence, kingdom, etc.). I know that ofcourse eventually they will be from different places, I'm just focusing on the more rescent ancestors. I'm trying to get an idea of averages for everyone, to know probability and history

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  1. People were on the move.  In the colonial South, the English were on the coastline. They came mostly from titled families in England.  Then the more rugged Scots, ScotchIrish(called Ulster Scots in Britain), Germans (called Dutch in colonial days) settled the western portion of the Southern colonies, cleared the land and made it habitable then the English moved westward.

    Also French Huguenots had settled in the South and made excellent business men.

    I have some family lines that started out in Virginia, moved to the Carolinas, then to Georgia, then Alabama and then Texas.

    On my mother's side, her mother's people left North Carolina after the Civil War to go to California.  They were in Missouri for a couple of years(around Independence which was the jumping off place for California).  There was a family member they didn't want to take across the desert so they came to Texas. One of my grandmother's uncles left N.C. with them and was also going to California. Instead of him coming to Texas, he returned to N. C. where he had a store at Mt. Gilead for a number of years.  

    It wasn't unusual for people when they moved great distances to stay at an inbetween place for a few years and perhaps do farming, before moving on.  You have to understand, roads and trails were not always very good.  They didn't have convenience stores,ice houses and fast food places on the way. They had to get new horses and restock on chickens, pigs etc to continue their journey.  

    A branch of my father's family that started out in the Carolinas, then to Georgia, Alabama and then to Texas, when they left Alabama one of my great grandmother's brothers rented a railroad car to bring all the families'

    possession with them, horses etc.

    My great grandmother, her husband, and 3 children, and her father  all of her sisters and her brothers except two sisters(one of which had already died in Alabama came to Texas and settled in Gonzales County about 1890.  Her mother had also died in Alabama.  

    One branch of my father's family immigrated in through Savannah,  then to North Georgia.  My great grandmother married a South Carolina native in north Georgia. They moved to Alabama after the state was formed and then came to Texas about 1900.  

    I had a set of great great grandparents along with my great grandfather that came in through the Port of New Orleans in 1853 from Prussian Poland and ran into the worst yellow fever epidemic New Orelans had. My great great grandfather fell victim almost immediately upon arrival.  He left a pregnant widow and a 5 year old son.  Immigration wanted to send them back.   She married and moved to Texas.  My great grandfather was in Houston in 1870 but moved to back to Louisiana where he married a woman of 1/2 Native American ancestry who wa born in Louisiana to a South Carolina born father and a Mississippi born mother.

    I had another branch that came from Alsace in the early part of the 1700s, they were in Maryland for awhile and later moved to North Carolina.

    Movement was constant.

    I have heard my stepmother tell how one of her great grandfathers went to the polls in Tennessee carrying a Polk stick(Polk candidate for president).  He came home and said, " load up the wagons.  We're going to Texas.  I just shot a man."  After the Civil War, he was returned to Tennessee for trial and found not guilty due to self defense.


  2. No.  Two of them were born in Wales in the 1700s and immigrated to the U.S.; all the others were born in the U.S., but various States.  Going back from there, they were from quite a few countries.

  3. you have numerous replies on your prior question, and since you did not select A BEST ANSWER, perhaps you have not gone through all of those.

    I honestly think your question is so broad, and persons are so diverse, that it would be impossible to come up with any "averages" or probabilities. I can tell you that in the US, for EXAMPLE, persons in the early and mid 1800s, tended to migrate together. SOME "migration patterns" exist.. but those are generalities.

    My grandfather will not fit into any of this, whatsoever, since he migrated from Poland in the 1880s.  GENERATION wise, he is "close", but not at all the same as someone else's grandfather who was born in the 1930s in the US.  My grandfather was born 100 yrs earlier. It is not clear what you define as "more recent", or what factor there is by differing means of transportation.

    Using the early 1800s as framework, will be completely different when you talk about someone living in the US, and whose ancestors had been here since the 1700s.. any of whom, may well have married an immigrant who arrived in 1860.  

    It is completely unlikely that other person's patterns are going to have any bearing on the likelihood of YOUR ancestors..  They are not going to work into any "average" (since there is no average), nor do I think you can predict any probable patterns.  Too many different factors are involved.

  4. I've have noticed in my Family Tree, usually clumps of people/families on the same branch are from the same state (or close neighboring state)in the united states; but that each branch is from a different state. But overall they appear to come from a general region of the united states-ohio, tn, Indiana, Illionis.

  5. Considering lack of mass transportation, available land and the fact not all of the states were official back then, the answer is pretty obvious.  YES!  Families stayed together for many reasons, ie, church, community, land development.  It wasn't until more land became available(mid-1800's was a typical migration to the south west(Texas)) that families started leaving.  One of my branches were pretty constant in Pennsylvania for over 2 hundred years, then a huge migration occurred and they all split up.  Study migration patterns, this may help find your answer.

  6. Of my ancestors born in the early 1800s:

    (2) were from the French Alps

    (3) were from the Swiss Alps

    (3) were from Lorraine, France

    (2) were from Paris (Ile de Paris), France

    (1) was from Bavaria

    (4) were from a part of Prussia (Germany) that's now Poland

    (9) were Quebecois (French-Canadian)

    (3) were from Noord-Braband, Netherlands

    (2) were from Sud-Holland, Netherlands

    (3) were from Belgium

  7. In the early 1800s my ancestors lived in Germany, Hungary, Scotland and South Africa.

  8. nope

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