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Philosephy and the begining of the universe as we know it?

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Do u think scientists would have discovered so much about the universe in such a short space of time with out philosephy? would humans know so much had it not been for guys like aristotle and ptylomey getting the ball rolling?

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  1. i definitely think so. everything we know today started from somebody being curious about something and asking questions just like those guys. what i find even more interesting is that the first civilization ever (the Sumerians) knew more about all that stuff even before the invention of the telescope. they had drawn diagrams of our solar system describing ALL the planets, size , color, all revolving around the sun. isn't that wicked crazy?!?! how can such knowledge like that be lost in history. and the craziest thing about it is they said their gods taught them every thing they know. their gods were called the annunaki (those from heaven to earth came) and they are from a planet called nubiru (the planet of the crossing) they also have that planet described in their diagrams of our solar system, symbolized as a cross. go figure. they say the planet has a 3600 year orbit around our sun. that's how the Mayans got that whole calender business. i guess all that knowledge was destroyed just like the Mayans and the Aztecs. i feel like for some reason their were and still are people out there that dont want us to know that. trip out on that!  


  2.   It's an evolution of thought.

      When men began to speak and to be objective religion and other superstitions ruled what they saw.

      Philosophers didn't do much to explain what we saw the great thinkers had to unravel what seemed to be the unthinkable and we gradually arrived at what we understand today.

      I'm sure there will be many revisions of our understanding of the universe,we'll just have to wait and see.

  3. Philosophy from the Greek literally means the love of wisdom.  And Doctor is Latin for teacher.  A PhD (doctor of philosophy) should teach the love of wisdom.  Unfortunately, long ago certain philosophies were adopted as dogma stifling possible advances.  Also certain Greek philosophers would argue about the number of teeth in a horse but never look.  You might say that the early philosophers got the ball rolling slowly and others stopped it in its tracks.  Double blind testing of proposals (when possible) and peer review likely greatly advanced science by building upon many successes.  Even today new theories about how the universe began and developed are welcome, especially if consistent with what is known or knowable.  

  4. When Satan gave pythagoras the secrets of number and geometry (including the pentagram and the golden ratio) that started philosophy which lead to Hermetic magic from hence science sprouted from and has lead us to the coming disasters of the soon to come Tribulation.

  5. Good question, the ball is beyond rolling now and I do think your right but theirs was not a sole observational endeavor; there must have been many, many, many paid people along the way (it was 1500+ years just from Aristotle 384-322 bc to Galileo 1564-1642 ad, would you say 30 generations?). The naming constellations originated in Mesopotamia over 5000 years ago.

    We have come a long way from the original model/hypothesis to our understanding of theory to applied natural law.  The more recent discoveries (in my opinion) have occurred within the past 150 years or even 75 to be more precise.  


  6. No, quite the opposite. The ancients were obviously wrong on so many things such as the nature of the Universe, biology, etc. And that got frozen into dogma which held back real research for centuries.

    A good example is how the Church in the middle ages forbade dissection of human bodies. How much sooner would we have learned about things like circulation of the blood and the cause of disease if we were not stuck for so long in an incorrect belief?  

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