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Planes of existence?

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what if we are on one plane of existence? if u r a good person in life, u move up to a higher plane and if u r bad, u go down one?

with the highest being heaven and the lowest being h**l?

i dunno, this just popped into my mind while i was thinking of ascension in a tv show called stargate atlantis- scifi show

who knows, that may be how we got h**l and heaven, ppl fell from heaven/rose from h**l

what are all of your thoughts on this?

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  1. my thoughts on this? my thought is the next DMT hit you take please give the beings from planet Traflamadorf my greetings.


  2. That’s certainly a possibly but we have no way of proving that it’s a correct hyposisis. It’s a  good of guess as anyone.

    My personal thought is that we are in this world, that there are no other planes of existence, there is just no evidence that there are other plains. It may  possible that there are other ones, but travel to and from them is impossible, rendering them non-existent at least in my book.

    I don’t believe in heaven and h**l, there is just no way that a god can judge someone on something he never learned. Where do new born babies go? What if you lived a bad life then turn it good? Or vise versa? What about artificial life? Sure it doesn’t exist yet but I feel like it wil.


  3. Electrons have different planes of existence, so maybe that's a fundamental part of the design.

    "Watch Your Dreams" and "Men in White Apparel," Ann Ree Colton,

    "The Masters and Their Retreats" and "The Path of the Higher Self," Mark Prophet,

    "Dossier on the Ascension," Serapis Bey,

    "The Master of Lucid Dreams," Dr. Olga Kharitidi,

    "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?", Free and Wilcock, http://www.divinecosmos.com

    "Psychoenergetic Science," Dr. William A. Tiller, http://www.tiller.org

    "Light Is a Living Spirit" and "Hope for the World:  Spiritual Galvanoplasty," O. M. Aivanhov,

    http://noosphere.princeton.edu

    http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10

    http://www.sheldrake.org

    http://www.integralscience.org

    http://www.noetic.org

    http://www.heartmath.org

    http://www.dreamviews.com

    http://www.carolbowman.com

  4. I would think wtf did i do in my other life to deserve this plane :D

    it seems like an ill thought out idea.

    I doubt there are other planes of existence, why would there be?

    The idea of alternate planes doesn't really make much sense.

    Well maybe a spirit plane?

    Or it could just be more false hopes.. or trying to ease suffering of death

  5. heaven and h**l are delusions the church used to control the people in the middle ages, and today

  6. Sudoken!

  7. If you are going to follow the Stargate example, then perhaps it is possible that heaven and h**l are higher planes of existence. To continue on following it, if it is true, then those higher planes will not interfere with us "lowers", and it is the point of our existence to reach the higher plane. Now, I practice zen, believe in some Buddhist principles and Christianity, I do believe that humanity has the potential to ascend to these higher planes by reaching a certain state of mind to rid ourselves of the physical bodies to live on a higher plane as energy. Those that are quick to shoot this down, do not have a very open-minded view or are not big believers in the first amendment.  

  8. I think we're on the lowest plane. Heaven and h**l is remembering your life while residing on a higher plane where there is a lot of spiritual energy that makes for very intense recollections. If you had more positive experiences than negative ones, you could be said to be in heaven.

  9. There is no heaven or h**l, but there are multiple level of existence and life does continue.

  10. my advice to you is drink three quarts of sour mash whisky and forget about planes of anything....it wall all become clear after a few drinks

  11. Heaven and h**l were created by the catholic church, they do not exist. there only purpose is to scare  other catholics into their beliefs. with that said.. I believe that there are other plains of existence and that it is based on how many time you have been reincarnated. Once you die you can choose to be born again or  move up a level  and wait to be reincarnated. if you have lived a full life and do not wish to return and you have learned all you can  then you can become an angel and learn that path.  

  12. I never take my spiritual guidance from popular Sci-Fi Tv serials.

    Close your eyes, what do you hear, you hear your own thoughts.

    No one really knows for sure (well some of us do, but that's another story ;-) ).

    When someone comes back from being dead for 2 years I'd be interested to hear what they have to say.

  13. In Hinduism there are 33 levels of the astral and 33 levels of the etheric planes...h**l and Heaven.So your ideas line up with a religious philosophy that has lasted for 1000's of years. We can move into these planes of existence here on earth.

  14. I don't believe in h**l. I do believe that all souls go to the other side.  However, those who have lead a pretty bad life, have really created strain on their soul.  Those often are separated and go through extensive recovery, while others continue passage back to home and then placement again.  There are different planes, but how many levels I have not an understanding yet.  But there are levels humans do not go, but that non human souls do...like angels.  Angels are on higher plane because their vibration is much different.  Their tasks are often directly related to God head, and are true messengers/healers directed from Godhead itself.  

    Also, to put another perspective....when you pass on, you don't have to follow the light.  You can stay earth bound if you choose.  There are many reasons for those who choose that, but it IS a choice to make.  Most however, do follow the light when they pass.  

    In spirit, there is no such thing as bad.  It's only when being in body, on earth we experience h**l.  But we don't take it with us when we go "home".

    This is my perspective...please do not read this as absolution.  Thanks.
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