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Poker? Did I play this hand wrong?

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Im in the money rounds 62 place out of 68, Im in the cut off seat and looked down at JQ hearts, everyone limp in and the only ones that I don't know yet are sb n bb, blinds are 8k and 16k and I only have less than 60k, I smooth called since both of blinds just called as well, and flop came A 9 t small blind bets 8k into the pot eveyone fold unto me n I just called because I figure I have an open ended, turn came a J small blind bets 8k again, this time I shove it in because I figure I have more outs and the pot odds is right n got knock out because I miss n sb had A4, my question is how wrong did I played this hand? Should I just shove it in preflop or after the flop? How would you handle this situations if you re in my place? Please help and thank you so much for your time reading this and reply, thank you again in advance:)

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  1. You didn't do anything wrong. Gambling is your decision.

    If I had JQ pocket cards, I would've went in. If an A 9 came up on the flop (you didnt mention the other flop card) I would've probably folded since I would need both a 10 and a K to get a straight, and since you didn't mention the suits I don't think you could've had anything else.

    The probability of a 10 and a K coming up on the turn and river is slim, so I would've just folded after the flop.


  2. You played it wrong.

    First, i would have tried to steal the blinds by pushing preflop, but it depends on how everyone is playing.

    If you you limp with that many players, chances are someone flopped a big hand. If you push then someone will call. So you might as well just call and try to hit.

  3. Well first take note of your M, the number of times you can pay the blinds before being stacked off.  Right now you've got 60k and it costs 24k per round, so we'll say your M is about 2.5 to make it easier.  Any time your M is 5 or lower, you're on the verge of being knocked out and you only have two plays preflop, fold, or shove all in.  Ideally you'd want a spot where you are first to enter the pot, because you want to take it down without a fight.  If someone calls, you have to end up with the best hand to win the money, if they fold you just win.

    That being said, multiple limpers, probably all with large stacks, you didn't say the number but usually 9 person tables, so if you're the button I'm assuming 6 limpers in front, it's likely one of them is going to call you.  But multiple limpers generally indicates very weak cards, so now the pot with 6 limpers is 120k.  96k from limps and 24k from the blinds.  You're getting 2:1 right now and if one players calls you all in, you'll have 3:1 and there's no way you're a bigger dog than that.

    Based on this, shove the chips in now and see what happens.  You have to make something happen to really get somewhere deeper in this tournament and winning this hand will substantially increase your chances of that happening, so take the odds.

  4. I would have folded, having 2 high card, an Ace did come on the flop. As well as the possibility of another person could have had the nuts straight, or open ended straight as well.

    I might have raised after the turn and than all in at the river, to try and scare him off.

    I wouldn't have gone all in. But the guy doesn't know what you had and hit pair of Ace's so either he thought he won and had the better hand. And he did.

    Was this real money or a game?

    ("'\(o.o)/"')

  5. First off, I think you let yourself become too short stacked to begin with.  You want to have enough chips that if you raise, it's enough to scare someone off a weak hand like a ragged ace or a small pocket pair.  But with little over 3.5 times the big blind, it's really not enough (especially in the case where you have a lot of limpers pre-flop- if you have 6 limpers, that's $96K- you raise all in pre-flop, it's $44K more.  So everyone is getting better than 2 to 1 on their money). Generally, I start looking to push it all in preflop when I get about 8x the BB.  As short stacked as you were, I hate your pre-flop limp. If you are going to play the hand, you have to push it all in.  Technically, you are an underdog to the A4, but if you push you could have moved him off his hand.  In the SB, if he were to call you, not only does he have to worry if you have a better ace, he has to worry about everyone after him to act.  

    Here's a little tip about moving up the money.  You said you made the money.  Let's say money goes something like this-

    70-60 makes $10

    59-50 makes $12

    49-40 makes $14

    If there are 68 players left, you need to outlast 8 other players to make a jump in the money.  So technically, it doesn't matter whether you finish 70th or 60th, the money is the same.  So if you start getting shortstacked, there is even more reason to push.  Chances are unless you double up, there is little chance for you to outlast 8 other players.  So you need to get it all in before you get too shortstacked.

  6. A hand like JQ is not particularly strong to begin with, especially if you end up playing it five ways like you did.  If there were limpers before you there's only two options, fold or make a large enough raise to force everyone out.  Maybe if you get one caller you'd be okay but JQ is not something you ever want to play multi handed.

    By the time the turn came out and you paired your jacks, you only had middle pair with a not great kicker.  Unless you thought the SB would fold to your all in you should have just called at that point and saw the river cheaply.  If you didn't hit you can still get away from it.  If you did , the SB is screwed.  

    To answer you question.  Yes you played the hand wrong, not only that you played the hand wrong on almost every situation that arised during that hand.

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