Politically correct madness?

Question

WHY is it,in in the UK and USA,you can make FAT jokes (if your fat),L*****n/g*y jokes (if your g*y) SPASTIC jokes (if you're disabled,PIKEY jokes(if you have a charachter to fit) ****** jokes if you're black,p***y jokes (if you're asian),but any comedian making jokes on these subjects who ISN'T in the named catgory OF the joke,is a biggott,rascist,political... incorrect and offensive-so we would have to be a disabled black g*y jew to be funny in an acceptable way????-thats really offensive as far as IM concerned-what's YOUR opinion?

Answer 1

Rudeness is wrong. Insulting people is wrong.

It is often the case that much-insulted people will decide to make jokes about themselves. If people want to say insulting things about themselves, that's not rude.

Is this very simple concept really impossible for you to understand?

Civilized people who have more than one functioning brain cell are all capable of grasping that it's rude to insult other people, but talking trash about oneself is not.

Answer 2

Not really.  I've seen and heard people who are not in the named category make fun of people in the named category.  You just have to be sure to do it in a good-natured way (and be willing to make fun of yourself, too).

Answer 3

I don't think you have to be a disabled, black, g*y jew to be funny.  Being funny does not neccessarily mean poking fun of a race or disability or sexual orientation but if you only knew how to make fun of people I can think of a million jokes about Americans, I heard a comedian just the other day saying that the kind of people on the Jerry Springer show is the average comedien etc.  I've heard jokes about English people mostly regarding package holidays and football thugs. If you are white, straight, able bodied person you can make fun of trailer trash, pikeys, chavs etc.  So don't feel that because you are not a minority you can't make jokes and also humour does not always have to involve making fun of people.  Don't feel like you have been hard done by.

Answer 4

It is interesting that the same joke can be told by a black person and get a huge laugh but when a white person tells it, it's not funny at all. There is a good reason for it, though: the audience's comfort level. If someone is saying negative things about a form of identity, but they don't share that identity, the audience is going to be too suspicious and uncomfortable to laugh. Discomfort is a HUGE impedance on humor. But if a person is telling a self-effacing joke about their own identity, the audience is comfortable because they know that the person telling joke has first-hand experience with the realities of that kind of discrimination.

Answer 5

i can make a joke about my self, however, as soon as anybody makes a joke about me, i dont like, and never will.

i dont think that political correctness has gone mad in the way that you are putting it. however, i do think that political correctness has gone mad. for example, i dont know what i can call a black person, just like i no longer no wot to call a p***y!

im not offended when someone calls me g*y, because it is what i am, however, i am slightly offended when someone calls somebody g*y, when it as ment as an isnsult. that annoys me.

this is my opinion.

Answer 6

As with most things, people value your commentary on a given issue if they think you have a frame of reference for understanding life from the uniquities of their perspective...you're one of the group which creates an implied comraderie, if only for the duration of that discussion.You're not laughing "at" someone, you're laughing with them. Outsiders (however that's determined) making commentary on facets of life they clearly don't understand come off as ignorant and mean-spirited. Even though I acknowledge the hypocrisy that's inherently a part of this issue, the logic of it has some validity: How can you speak intelligently or sensitively to something you know nothing about? And, as you correctly pointed out, since that's a dynamic shared by so many diverse subcategories, that tendency must be consistent with human nature.

Answer 7

I agree but what about the 2 old ladies who have fought and lost to preserve their right to live in their own home after one of them dies.

You can be a sexual pervert and have rights but you can't have a loving sister.

Answer 8

I don't know many good comics who have been labelled as racist or un-PC unless they tell nothing but these jokes. A smattering doesn't hurt. One must learn not to be offended so much. Life is too short.

Answer 9

I don't think it is a madness. I enjoy really good comedians who are able to give us the truth in a quirky way which make us accept it but there are lines which shouldn't be crossed. I am not saying I know where they are but I do know when they are crossed.

I would love there to be a comedian who could tell it how it really is in a funny way to be schizophrenic. I have a friend who is also schizophrenic who says - if the public.

Its a good job they don't know how much it hurts or they would do it all the more.

There is a thin line for humanity, between humour and insult and cruelty and not everyone knows where that line is. I wouldn't trust 'walkies' to know how to be sensitive to anyone who is physically disabled - I woudln't trust 'normies' to have any empathy about what it is like to be mad. So PC is a way of saying you don't belong - rightly so you havent suffered in the same way - you cannot join the club. Sub groups are a way of getting some strength together to be able to live in a society which doesn't value us.

re the 'N' word. If you have any understanding of what it might be like to have ancestry who were enslaved  and then have some joker with no idea of the pain of that history come and throw it in your face you would understand.

Go to the slavery exhibition in Liverpool and listen to the talking heads there about what it is like to come to terms with it.

Sammy Davis jnr. was a very funny black disabled Jewish comedian. There are enough to go around.

Answer 10

Dave Chapelle makes "racist" jokes all the time about other ethnicities, and he is very popular with tons of people OF those ethnicities. The reasonable can take a joke, so long as it's funny and has a non-angry heart. That's why people like comedians like Dave Chapelle. He's making fun of you AND he likes you. People don't like George Carlin because he can't stand you and is making fun of you.

Answer 11

Jokes are jokes and the absurdity of the joke can warrant and awful telling and allow the teller to get away with it. Honestly, PC culture has gotten out of hand and a few off-color jokes shot to the spine is good for it. Sometimes it's not the joke, but the idea and the inappropriate nature of that joke that makes it funny. See I think alot of "unPC" comedians, have more up their sleeves then you know. It' s easy to tell a knock-knock joke and get a chuckle. It's hard to stand up there, say something that might be socially "unacceptable" and hope the audience "gets" you. When they do, that's good comedy. And the idea that you have to be in a group is like saying you have to be black to say *****. Do you? Not really, it's a word that's out there for the public. Jokes are out there to tell.

It's just how the audience takes it.