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Primal wound, The girls that went away & Fast track Adoption?

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I went to the library today and wanted to check these books out. FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES not because I'm looking to adopt again. And they had none of these books. Usually they'll order them if enought people want it, but they said that these books were on some kind of "list" where they won't get them in, no matter what..

I would buy them, but I REFUSE to contribute to the author of "Fast track adoption". ( I read some reviews)

Do you have any idea why these books are not available at a public library?

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  1. I've read "The Primal Wound" and heard nothing but good things regarding "The Girls Who Went Away," and I'm very surprised these are not in the library.  I'm more surprised that they refuse.  It sounds like someone added them to a banned book list, but I can't imagine why, unless they are trying to hide the problems of adoption practices in the U.S.  

    That's very, very strange.


  2. ask them

  3. If you have no luck at the library, you could try some of the online book swapping sites such as:

    www.SwapTree.com  

    www.bookins.com

    www.paperbackswap.com/

    Maybe you will have some luck there.

  4. Perhaps try a different library?  I check out both The Primal Wound and The girls who went away from my library.  I've never heard of the other one.

  5. The Primal Wound is SOURCE MATERIAL for just about every other book about adoption.  That it is not available in a public library is a grave oversight that you should point out to the head librarian.

    The Girls That Went Away was only published about a year ago, wasn't it?  Quite new literature often has a higher price tag and might take some time to arrive.  This book also has a very, very specific audience.  I doubt it will ever become a mainstream book.  Does your library provide the service of inter-library loans?  Most do.  Ask...librarians loved to be asked questions about books!

    Fast Track Adoptions...never heard about it.  Considering the title and your not-so-glowing reference to it, I doubt it is something I would like to read.

    EDIT:  Please ask for a copy of this list...I'd love to see it!

    2nd EDIT:  I read the link.  Yuck!  Not going to get my money.  THAT is a book that needs to be on a list, censored!

  6. Depends on where in the country you live.  Some librarians practice censorship (hard to get away with it in a large library system).  Ask if they can get it from another library. Even though most are likely in paperback, some library likely has them.

  7. They are controversial books.. all three of them, though for different reasons.

    Personally, having read "Primal Wound" I seriously disagree with it's premise, and the fact that it  perpetuates the "adoptee as victim" stereotype.

    I have yet to read "The Girls Who Went Away"... I have the feeling that it's not going to be an easy read.

    And "Fast Track Adoption" ought to be burned.  It's on my list above even "Adoption for Dummies" and "Adoption for Complete Idots"

  8. Oh my gosh, I can't tell you how sick I feel. To think that there is a manual on how to swindle someone out of their child. I remember the day I attempted suicide, it was due to the devastation of the loss of my daughter, I got a call from my "friends" who told me I could not see here again. I had a complete breakdown. Then about 6 months later someone broke into my apartment and I was attacked (attempted strangulation) then kidnapped in my own car. I managed to escape. The police and a member from my church, who worked for the FBI, said that whoever did that, knew me very well or had been watching me for a long time. The invader was there to kill me. I knew the whole time, he's going to kill me. It was a small town and the church group I was involved with were aware of alot of things going on in my life, and felt like I was in danger. They gathered up money for a moving van and everything I would need to relocate. At the time I didn't tell the police who I thought it was, because I thought they would figure it out and I was too overwhelmed and in a state of shock realizing who I thought it was. Most of all, I was concerned over the fate of my daughter ........ I left and then I got some rather shocking revelations concerning the AP's  and yes, I made a serious suicide attempt. I was on a respirator for 3 days. I don't care if there's a private adoption, there needs to be a serious mental evaluation of the AP's. I can look back now and I see the red flags, but sometimes you can't do that when you're in the midst of great emotions.

    I read the book, "The Girls Who Went Away" in the bookstore, and sat in a corner sobbing hysterically. Mine was the "open" adoption scam, but I knew their pain and yet, I could only imagine some of it. What happened to them was horrible in a whole different way. Either way the adoption happens, it's the raping of your internal soul and trust in people. You never get that part of you back.

    My story is very convuluted. My therapist says it's stranger than fiction.

    I know that I will never make another suicide attempt, because I have my child who is my joy. My salvation. Otherwise, who knows?

    When that AP's child grows up, as they all will, and they discover that they originally were part of an "open" adoption, then they it was CLOSED, I can imagine that they will have alot of emotionally problems. That's something the AP's will have to answer for.

    Offer to donate the books to the library.

    Thanks for the information.

    I only tell about these very intimate, painful details for anyone who is even considering relinquishing their baby. They need to know the facts. I hate doing it and it costs me alot emotionally, but I feel if I can help one family stay intack, then I've done something worthwhile. Please forgive my ramblings.

  9. Thats REALLY interesting.

    DON'T EVER BUY FAST TRACK ADOPTION. PLEASE. NEVER. I watched the online adoption community crumble when they annouced Cindy Jordans death after reading that book. People who I consider friends, who i've known online for years were very close to her. I read personal posts of her. That book pushed her over the edge and she committed suicide after reading it. Talk about a stab in the heart.  The owner of that book doesn't deserve to be living in a house in hawaii with Cindy Jordans daughter. One day, her daughter will be old enough to "google" her mothers name.

    Look into getting used copies online from like... whats that place... bookshelf.com or something or ancestry sells used ones, and then you can get them for a couple of dollars and donate them to the library once you've finished reading them ( wink wink )

  10. Maybe you can get them as e-books. I'm going to look since I am having a heck of a time getting out to the bookstore for The Girls Who Went away, already have Primal Wound.

    There is no way I would pay for Fast Track but I am interested in reading it to see how vulgar it truly is. There is power in knowledge and knowing the tactics could help others avoid the trap. Maybe I can find a copy at a used book store, at least then the money is only going to the store and not the publisher or author.

  11. Wow, I'd love to hear the answer why

    I'll lend  you my copies but I want them back!

  12. I hope you don't buy Fast Track Adoption.  The natural mother in that woman's case committed suicide after she realized that the adoptive mother wrote the book about her.  Pretty scary and sad.

    Primal Wound and The Girls Who Went Away.  People outside of our community really don't want to understand and learn about adoption.

  13. A List?  What the h**l...isn't that censorship?!  I'd love to know the reason, too.  I thought that libraries had pretty much every book published, or could access it from another branch if asked.  I've never heard of this List thing...it's kinda scary.

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