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Pro-choice and vegetarians?

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how are you on the issue of abortion? i find it kind of contridicting that you are fighting for an animals rights but your pro-choice, really i just need opinions,

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  1. I am a Pro-life, conservative vegan.

    Honestly, I think pro-life and vegetarianism go hand-in-hand, but not a lot of others do. *shrug*


  2. Good point.   Every half alive piece of flesh matters to ME.  They are humans.   I am human.   I will protect them more than the animals in every way I can.  The fact that others see them as pieces of flesh that don't matter is very upsetting to me.

  3. Well I believe that if a woman lies down and makes a baby she shouldn't just kill it because of her own ignorance. I believe everyone and thing deserves to live a life! And no one should deny it that right, human or animal!

  4. Well, a chief difference is really that animals can feel pain whereas fetuses, at least not until late in the pregnancy, cannot. Another large difference is the enormous burden the different scenarios place on a person. Choosing to refrain from killing an animal for it's taste is, in most cases, a very small burden, while going through a pregnancy and giving birth a rather larger burden.

    Another major objection is that you are really comparing apples and oranges. Very few vegetarians actually want to see meat outlawed. Their actions are at the personal, not the political level. Most pro-life people, however, do want abortion to be outlawed. Even granting that there is a contradiction in being an ethical vegetarian and getting and abortion, it does not follow that there is a contradiction in being an ethical vegetarian and supporting the legality of abortion. They most likely support meat consumption being legal, although they think it morally better to not eat meat, so how does this conflict with supporting abortion being legal but thinking it morallly better to not abort?

    I think the issue is a bit more complex than your statement implies.

  5. Abortion is murder! I don't think anyone, vegetarian, vegan, human, should get an abortion. God gave you a gift. Everything happens for a reason! And I don't really fight for abortion because I've never needed one and I never will. I think that babies are important but I think my passion is fighting for the animals. I love each one equally!

  6. Yeah i am the say way. I dont care about eating animals they are here for a reason. I dont why people think they can kill an unborn child and yet not kill an animal. It just makes me want to scream at them, so frustrating.

  7. Differnet issues. Differnet causes.

    I'm vegetarian purely for health reasons not ethical ones as are alot of vegetarians.

    My views on abortion are personal and for another day on another forum.

  8. i find it very contridicting, im vegetarian but pro-life, i think abortion (unless your rape or other  incidents) is %100 murder, a lot of people dont like vegetarians just because they feel that they will fight for animals but dont care about ppl, which isnt true, i just think that we should all live and fight for each other, clique yea,

  9. I think abortion should be retro-active. If your considering having an abortion dont do it on an empty stomach.Have bucket of KFC first.

  10. I'm against abortion, because it is murder.

    I'm a vegetarian since almost 20 years .

  11. I am for the choice of life.

    All life should be valued.  All life is valuable.

    For me, my lifestyle choice totally reflect my belief and what I practice in life.  It would be totally hypocritical to stand for the life and safe treatment of animals while in the support of the killing of unborn children.  Such would be the ultimate in oxymoron.

  12. Pro-choice does not equal pro-abortion.

    There is absolutely no contradiction.

    I am vegan and pro-choice.

    Do you seriously think that making abortion illegal will stop it from happening?

    No, it will just make it more dangerous for women. Anyone that cares more about an unborn fetus than a woman with ties to family and friends is BEYOND SICK.

  13. I'm guessing from your Q&A - I may be wrong - that you're very young; life experience can change your view on issues like this.

    I'm vegan and I'm very much pro-choice. To my mind the two issues are unconnected.

    For me it's a class issue as much as anything else. In countries where abortion is illegal, women have abortions anyway - dangerous, life threatening and sometimes fatal abortions. This used to happen in countries where abortion is legal, and still does where it is legal but in reality hard to get.

    It is women without the money to buy safe abortions - something wealthy women have always been able to do, legal abortion or no - who died and continue to die. I care about their lives so I'm pro-choice.

    I'm old enough to remember the time before abortion was legal in my country. I remember the whispers about a friend's teenage cousin who died following a botched illegal abortion, and friends par boiling themselves in hot baths to try to induce abortion. Stories of knitting needles, coat hangers etc aren't just horror stories, they happened and continue to happen.

    I am strongly in favour women being in control of their own lives and destinies, and part of this is control over their own fertility. With the best will in the world contraception sometimes fails.

    I'm vegan because I choose to minimise my contribution to animal suffering. I'm pro-choice because I value the lives of women and their right to choose - whatever the circumstances of conception. I think it's arrogant and judgemental to say in some cicumstances - rape, incest - I would allow women this right, but not in other circumstances.

    Keep it legal, keep it safe - a slogan that sums it up from 1970s - 80s demonstrations. I like a slogan I heard recently when UK Tory Ann Widdecombe was speaking against abortion rights even more: Pro Life? That's a lie! You don't care if women die!

  14. it's the womans choice not some stupid republican guy who thinks his opinion actually matters

  15. I am Pro-Choice. I think it's fucked up how some people care more for an embryo than they do an already breathing, feeling, hard working woman whose life can be ruined by some small, half-alive piece of flesh that won't make a different to anyone but IT'S MOTHER. Pro-Life is Anti-Woman. And I'm not even a feminist.

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