Problem in court for Obama as he may not be a Natural Born Citizen after all.?

Question

Is this the end for his campaign?

Please read the link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

Answer 1

Not hardly. If you read the article several times it says that the claims are unfounded.

The whole birth certificate thing was blown out of the water as soon as the smear campaign started.

If it were true he would not have been able to run. You can guarantee he was checked by the FBI, CIA and who knows what government organization when he first started in politics and anything that would make it illegal for him to run would have been brought up immediately.

Answer 2

Republicans and yourself included wish this claim was true Because your Party is in big,big, big trouble.

Wasn't McCain the one born outside of the U.S.

McCain was Actually Born in Panama, did you know that?  

Answer 3

No.  Don't be so gullible. You think none of Obama's competitors will have researched this?  You think some crackpot lawyer has succeeded where they failed?  This guy is a publicity hound...he tried the same thing with the 9/11 Commission.

Answer 4

Ha ha!

Beating a dead horse!

Is this the best ya got?

Keep trying bright eyes!

Answer 5

Read the link.  A court of law should be able to settle the matter to the satisfaction of all concerned.  At least someone had the guts to put their money where their mouth is...

Answer 6

LOL, it's a stupid suit that is based on made-up law (there is no law about losing citizenship as a child because of adoption).

Second, you can tell no one cares because the only two websites it is posted on are this one, which is ultra-righty, and some random one from Canada.  

The fact that even McCain's camp or FOX haven't jumped on it should be evidence enough that the suit, if it exists at all, is a joke.

Answer 7

The injunction was denied, the case is close to getting thrown out

Answer 8

Hahaha!!!!!  Anyone can file a lawsuit, doesn't make any of it true.

Answer 9

Well it will certainly get the issues out in the open:

"A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States."

http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/oba...

Here is a copy of the lawsuit:   http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/0...

Answer 10

No, the article claims this is a discredited claim. It won't go anywhere in court, and probably will be thrown out...

I wish it were true, but it probably isn't....

Answer 11

Here is the column in its entirety.  More evidence that Hillary will do anything to become nominated and that the Republicans have not a leg to stand on based on the abuse that America has sustained under their administration.

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ELECTION 2008

Democrat sues Sen. Obama over 'fraudulent candidacy'

Lawsuit disputing U.S. citizenship based in part on discredited claims

By Drew Zahn

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Philip J. Berg

A prominent Pennsylvania Democrat has sued Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, claiming that Obama is not a natural-born citizen and, therefore, is not eligible to be president of the United States.

Philip J. Berg, a former member of Pennsylvania's Democratic State Committee and former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, filed the lawsuit this week in U.S District Court, asking the court to declare Obama ineligible for the presidency and to prevent him from running for the position.

However, a WND investigation has found that at least part of Berg's lawsuit relies on discredited claims.

A separate motion was also filed seeking a temporary restraining order on Obama's presidential campaign until Obama's eligibility can be verified.

The lawsuit claims Barack Obama's eligibility is questionable on several grounds, including the allegation that he was born in Kenya to parents unable to automatically grant him American citizenship, that his Hawaii birth certificate is a forgery – a now discredited claim – that he was made a citizen of Indonesia as a child and that he retained foreign citizenship into adulthood without recording an oath of allegiance to regain any theoretical American citizenship.

short, the suit claims Obama was not born an American citizen; lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child (Editor's note: This point is not supported by U.S. citizenship law); may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries. If any, much less all, of these allegations are true, the suit claims, Obama cannot constitutionally serve as president.

Why would a Democrat do this to his party's own candidate? And why right before the National Convention?

"Eighteen million Democratic Primary voters donated money, volunteered their time and energy, worked very hard and then not only supported Senator Clinton, but voted for her," Berg stated in a press release about the suit. "All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing because (Obama) lied and cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process."

Berg explained in a radio interview with Roger Hedgecock of KOGO in San Diego that Internet reports had been persistent over the last several months that Obama's birth certificate was a forgery and that he may not be an eligible, natural-born citizen. After doing his own careful research, Berg explained, he came to the conclusion the reports were more fact than rumor and that he needed to act quickly, before the election process proceeded.

"I filed this action at this time," said Berg in a press release, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated."

School record that lists "Barry Soetoro," a.k.a. Barack Obama, as Indonesian citizen (AP photo)





However, FactChecker.org says it obtained Obama's actual birth certificate and that the document was indeed real. The site discredited some of the claims of Internet bloggers, such as that the certificate as viewed in a scanned copy released by Obama's campaign lacked a raised seal. FactChecker.org also established that many of the alleged flaws in the document noted by bloggers were caused by the scanning of the document.

A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

The Berg lawsuit contends there is enough truth in the various reports to conclude, "Unfortunately, Obama is not a 'natural born' citizen."

The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil.

"Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states. "Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."

The claim could not be verified by WND inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public.

Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama's mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and Barack's American citizenship.

However, there doesn't seem to be any evidence Ann Dunham expatriated. Also, consulting citizenship experts contend that if Obama indeed obtained Indonesian citizenship, it simply would not have been recognized by the U.S., but the presidential candidate would retain his American citizenship.

Even after her divorce and return to the U.S., the suit says, "Obama's mother failed to take the oath in order to regain her U.S. Citizenship. Therefore, Obama would not have been able to regain his U.S. Citizenship until he turned 18 years (and) after he took the oath of allegiance."

"Since the oath of allegiance would have been entered in the records of the appropriate embassy, legation, consulate, court or the Attorney General, if Plaintiff is incorrect, then Obama should be able to produce in Court a certified copy of the proceedings, including a copy of the oath administered," the suit states.

The lawsuit then claims an investigation has shown that in 1981, "Obama traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian passport. At the time of travels to Indonesia, Obama was 20 years old. He was well aware he maintained his Indonesia citizenship, and failed to regain his United States citizenship. … Even if Obama maintained his United States Citizenship, which he failed to do, he also carries citizenships in Kenya and Indonesia. Obama has divided loyalties with foreign countries. Thus, Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States."

A WND investigation could not find any proof Obama used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan. However, WND noted that Pakistan in 1981 was under military rule and that it was difficult for U.S. citizens to travel to the country without assistance – meaning, it would have been easier to enter Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.

Berg claims his lawsuit is necessary, not only to protect the Constitution, but also to protect the integrity of the Democratic Party.

"If the DNC officers and/or leaders had performed one ounce of due diligence, we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship," said Berg in his press release. "The injunctive relief must be granted because failing to do so, (the DNC's) inaction defrauds everyone who voted in the Democratic Primary."

Answer 12

Like all repukes you only read part.

cont...

However, FactChecker.org says it obtained Obama's actual birth certificate and that the document was indeed real. The site discredited some of the claims of Internet bloggers, such as that the certificate as viewed in a scanned copy released by Obama's campaign lacked a raised seal. FactChecker.org also established that many of the alleged flaws in the document noted by bloggers were caused by the scanning of the document.

A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

Answer 13

I think the law suit will not go anywhere and the fact that Sen McCain was born in Panama while his father was stationed there is a known fact and any one knowing anything about the law would know being born in a military hospital on a military base means you were born in the United States.  The fact that Sen Obama's mother is a natural born American citizen means he is also by definition a natural born American citizen also despite where he was born, what the citizenship of the father was and would count even if his parents were never married (no that is not a rumor I am starting it is a fact that is noted is all).  The children of American military personnel or civilians are considered American citizens regardless of the martial status of the mother and father and without regard to where they were born.  Both sides should just forget this and move on to some thing else.  I do say both sides because this law suit is not a "neocon" conspiracy but within the Democratic Party and I also say all the talk abut Sen McCain being a "traitor" should cease and the if you don't support Sen Obama you are a racist should stop; issues are what are important and where the candidates stand on them not slurs, smears, pretty speeches or the rest of the trash being spouted by both sides.  The only real interesting point to all that is whether or not Sen Obama had dual citizenhsip and traveled on a foreign passport; that would actually "muddy the waters" n his eligibility but again until that is proven in court it would be justa rumor.  Second case would be if he traveled on a foreign passport would be the violation of law and possibility that it is considered a felony again throwing his eligibility to be a Senator much less Presidential candidate in to question.  Using a nations passport you are not entitled to use is a violation of both US and international law.

Answer 14

I read this article and a few other sites have it as well. It does raise questions and answers are needed. this article id feature and post on has many of the major news networks as you can find. send it to all the media types from the liberal left to the streams on talk radio. If this is true this his campaign is doomed.