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Proof that Obama was trained as a Muslim in childhood in Indonesia?

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I have the courage of my convictions, that does not neccesarily mean that my private life is an open door for anyone to waltz on in... Jeffrey, where do you live? whats your address? What job experience do you have? Are you married? g*y or straight? Got kids? where do they go to school? Too much off topic for ya? My point exactly. Plus, its none of my business. Get a clue.

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  1. So what if he was. It is not a crime to be Muslim. Can't people worship the religion of their choice? Also, can't people change their mind if something else makes more sense to them as the get older and begin thinking for themselves?  


  2. You sound just like the people who were taken in by the Red Scare of the 1950s. You were told by your leaders to fear certain groups. You were told that they were un-American and evil but you didn't know why. You just knew they were that way because that's what you were told. At that time, Muslims were perfectly fine with Americans. It was communists who weren't. In the past, politicians have also used immigrants, Native Americans, and non-whites as ways to generate fear of them and to generate public support for policies against them. Right now, it's the Muslims who are the whipping boys. In another 20 to 30 years, it will be another group entirely. It will be interesting to see which one it will be.

    You can call me names and tell me how silly I am but I'm not one of those who buys into such types of fear mongering, which is precisely what I'm seeing being used against Barack Obama. The truth is people don't want a black man as president but they won't admit it openly. So they go off on tangents about his religion or his nationality, both of which are coded forms of racism. People are afraid of having a president who isn't exactly like them.

  3. Awesome,,

    That makes him an Apostate.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...

    Muslims really hate those..

    http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cf...

    When he's president are relations in the middle east will be just swelegant.

    Muslims really really hate aposates...

    http://europenews.dk/en/node/12754

    They seriously hate'em

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Cou...

  4. He never referred to them because at the beginning of his campaign because he denied it , and now its leaking .

  5. Thats why I say a vote for Obama is a vote for Osama !  

  6. If you had the courage of your convictions, Luath, you would not hide your email address, nor your other questions and answers.  It appears you want to be able to make your statements without having to defend them against someone who knows the truth, or who is at least capable of presenting cogent arguments and solid evidence, instead of scurrilous inuendo and demonstrable falsehoods.

    Addendum:  First, I didn't ask you to provide personal details about yourself, and you know full well that I did not.  All I asked is that you provide an email address.  Mine is available.  If you are going to come on this forum and post questions and answers, the least you could do is provide a means for interested parties to follow up with you.  If you choose not to respond, you can always simply delete them.  But I often find that it is the people who post the most ridiculous things who are unwilling to allow further discussion.

    Now, as to the "substance" of your question.  You, and others of your ilk, are forever trying to "prove" that Obama was trained as a Muslim.  So what if he were?  Even if he had been trained in Islam as a child, that doesn't make him a Muslim now.  Obama went to a school in Indonesia for four years, a school where he was certainly exposed to Islam, since that is the predominant religion in the country.  I was "trained" as a Christian for much longer than that, but I am not a Christian.  Even if Obama had been "technically" a Muslim as a child, he has been a Christian for the last twenty years.  Assuming that Obama had actually been a practicing Muslim at some point, which by itself would not disqualify him to be president, do you not believe that a person can sincerely convert from one religion to another?

    Further, your assertion, or rather Corsi's, that memorizing the Koran, a practice that many Muslims follow, is something "that non-Muslims just don't do" is simply not true.  It isn't common, to be sure, and even all Muslims don't accomplish it, but it is not unheard of for non-Muslims to do it.  For instance, T. E. Lawrence, the British Army officer more commonly known as  "Lawrence of Arabia," committed the Koran to memory, yet he was not himself a Muslim.  

    Finally, why would Obama's knowledge of Islam, at whatever level that might exist, constitute "dubious credentials?"  I am not being disingenuous here; I truly do not see why that would be a problem.  You have made the assertion, now back it up with arguments

    I would not put too much stock in Corsi's book, if I were you, even if it does apparently reinforce your preconceived notions.  His supposedly "well-documented" book is full of distortions and errors (I stop short of calling them "lies," since I think Corsi himself probably believes them).  If you look at his footnotes, the majority refer to other works by Corsi himself, a practice which is generally not considered to be academically sound.  Overall it is a hack job, a worthy successor to his equally falacious book about John Kerry.

  7. Dude calm down

    Obama 08

    Jeff S. Luath has no idea what you said.

  8. If Obama wins, the mafia will own Washington:

    Tattered past, drugs, bars, unscrupulous friends (including William Ayers known boming terrorist) & (White-hating leader of Islam Farrakhan)

    Sleeper cell connections

    Secret friends with Islamic ties

    Trips to Pakistan, where we know Bin Ladin is hiding.

    "Organizer" of blacks, what does that mean.  I haven't heard of an "organizer of whites" that was anything but trouble.

    Obamas Idol a "Chicago mob Mayor"  Harold Washington.

    Syrian Tony Rezko, convicted of money laundering, bribery, developer and ties to mob.  

    Formed Son of Islam.  Obama knew him for 18 years.

    Rezko pulled Obama in a law firm representing phony non-profits, (funneling taxpayer money for the mafia Chicago machine).  Don't kid, this Syrian guy was feeding Obama payola under the table and got caught.

    Knocked all candidates that were running against him off the ballot, very cut-throat  Chicago mafia politics.

    Amiel Jones "political Godfather"

    In Chicago assembly he Votes "present" instead of Yes or No.

    (very uncommitted tap dancing).

    Patriot Act - voted NO -No wonder he doesn't like Feds "poking around" as he stated, he's tied to the mob machine.

    Rev. Wright's anti-american, pro Farrakhan statements hit too close to the radical Islamic beliefs.

    Also supports black liberation theology - WTF!

    Keep in mind, While Obama is rising under suspicious circumstances in Chicago's well known Mafia run politics, the judges, lawyers, polititians, and police were all fixing and arranging unscrupulous financial dealings, murders, corruption, money laundering of government funds.

    Alarm bells should go off in all honest citizens!  

    Washington does not need more corruption or more mafia ties!


  9. Wow, that is really intolerant of you. The Quran is the Muslim equivalent of the Bible. As a Jew, I have read the Bible (including new testament), but that does not make me Christian, it just makes me more informed. I wish I had read the Quran to give me more perspective on the religion of Islam since it is something that so many people in this world believe in. It is certainly one of the top 5 most influential pieces of literature of all time, so don't you feel as though it might be worth reading? I have no idea if Obama has read it, but I would imagine it would only add to his credentials...

  10. Well, according to research and investigation by TIME magazine, Obama was studying in catholic school in Indonesia. I went to catholic school and believe me, they don't teach us mengaji at catholic school. Furthermore, in the years when Obama was in Indonesia, Indonesia was not like Indonesia nowadays. Muslim fundamentalist were mushrooming in Indonesia especially after 9/11 incident and Iraq attacks.

    Perhaps you should read the article yourself and please find more sources before any conclusion.

    Here is the path:

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/...

  11. Lots of people have read the Koran you know among other books, I did hear and item on radio here in Ireland about this Cols chap, seems he never was in Malaysia found out these things on the internet and has no proof that the person he says was a former teacher was a teacher never mind was in Malaysia.  

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