Q. do you consider yourself some form of an ape or not?

Question

Horses seem superior in so many ways than the great apes, which we are listed with. As the poet said, "Death be not proud," i suspect keeping our "apeness" in mind should help us not be too proud. Humility is a good thing dont you think? I learned far more about love and goodness from a white arabian horse i name Penelope than any of t he great apes. How say you?

Answer 1

You find what you need to in the places you look.

Sash.

Answer 2

Horses are the coolest animals ever. No, I didn't come from an ape, nor am I any type of ape. I was created human. An ape is an animal. I am in no way any form of ape.

Answer 3

I will have to ask my dog.

Answer 4

Ooh ooh ooh, aah aah aah.  I say no...

Answer 5

Yup, I'm a great ape.

You learned more about love and goodness from other people than you did from your horse.  A horse is a horse, of course, of course.

Answer 6

YES. YES. YES !

The human origin & The origin of all other organisms were

processed in ocean .

We are related to variety of fish such as dolphins & Whales.

We are also related to birds.

Beyond 20 million yrs. ago I mean before Gorilla, We were

Hominids & had also tales !

Our closest relatives in past 6 to 7 million yrs. are Hominoids

which are tailless Gorillas, uran gutans, bobonos &

"Chimpanzees".

I accept proved research that our origin is "monkey" in

general & not from thoughts such as Adam & Eve .

I'm not ashamed of my origin :Chimpanzee". It's a fact. and

we are advanced animals compaired to other animals.

Now I have a question from you :

why did you switch to horse right after asking about ape ! ?

Answer 7

I wouldn't consider myself an ape but I do like bananas. But I would consider an ape part human in a sense since there's only one cromazone difference. Or maybe that's chimpanzees..

Answer 8

Nope, Im human.

Answer 9

Apes fling p**p. It's so funny. People don't usually fling p**p. But every time I see someone pickin their nose it reminds me that we're all just basically monkeys.

Answer 10

Well, seeing as we are not looking for rigid distinctions like Hyobates, Pongo, Pan and Homo, how about if we just classify the distinctions which make an ape an ape and a great ape a great ape and then decide how well humans fit into the "ape" and the "great ape" models?

Before I look at "ape" and "Great ape" models, however, I would like to take a quick look at the greater classification of "primate" so that we can understand how all of us Hominoidea fit into the big picture first.

Primate features include:

1) reduced snout (mouth) which includes at least three types of teeth (incisors. canines and molars)

2) Forward facing eye sockets which are protected on the sides by bone.

3) Three bones inside the ear housed within the petrosal bulla instead of being contained within a separate bone or cartilage.

4) Collarbones.

5) Finger nails and toe nails instead of claws.

6) Two separate bones in the forearm (radius and ulna)

7) Grasping hands with mobile opposable thumbs.

8) Primates have a tendency towards a vertical posture.

9) There is a trend towards increased time spans for infancy, childhood and adulthood

10) Enlarged brains with an increased investment in vision over smell.

So by primates this not only includes apes, but monkeys as well, but just because an ape is not a monkey it is still easy to see how they both fit into the greater classification system of primate.

Now, the Ape pattern:

1) Y-5 cusp patterns on the lower molars

2) Wide chest (thorax)

3) Flexible shoulder, elbow and wrist joints

4) Long slender hands

5) Short back with no tail

6) Long limbs

7) Robust big toe

The "Ape" pattern includes the apes and the great apes and once again it is easy to see how they both fit into this classification that encompasses both of them.  So now the Great apes, they not only have all the "ape" characteristics, but also add on a few that are unique to the Great apes, these being:

1) U shaped dental arcades with a 2.1.2.3. Dental formula

2) Delayed maturity with an increased dependence on mothers.

3) Capable of some symbolic behavior.

4) Sexual dimorphism.

5) Even longer lifespan and maturation periods.

Despite these additions, can you think of any other primates that share these additional characteristics?

That's right, so what does the human now add to this list:

1) Reduced mandible with a chin (threatens our 2.1.2.3 formula because the Wisdom teeth no longer provide an advantage and a small portion of the population is now born without)

2) Our center of gravity passes through our pelvis and we have the greatest tendency for an upright posture as we have become 100% bipedal.

3) Our spine is s-shaped to hold our weight more appropriately for our bipedalism.

4) The largest brain for our body size of all primates.

5) Increased symbolic behavior.

6) Descended larynx which allows us to expel air quickly through our mouth.

7) Breath control, we have conscious control over our holding or expelling air.

8) The previous three additions are what allow for our leap in the expression of language through complex vocalizations.

9) Conversion from endocrine sweating to eccrine sweating.

10) Increased subcutaneous fat stores.

11) A reduced expression of our hair. (We still have a lot of hair/follicles, but it is thin and not coarse like in other primates.

12) When a human forehead has a wet cool cloth put over it, or when we immerse our face in cool water we experience what is known as a "diving reflex".  Our heart rate reduces and the oxygen in our lungs is consumed less quickly.

13) A forward shifted female genitalia that no longer shows estrus swelling (it is also more protected, I can't remember the name of what protects it, sorry)

Obviously our evolutionary path was abruptly altered through a distinct environment that gave us a wide variety of new characteristics that set us apart from the other Great apes, but we still share all the broader definitions of what makes a primate a primate, an ape an ape and a Great ape a Great ape.  Ironically, while this list of characterizations which sets us apart from the Great apes seems quite significant, it actually is not significant at all.  90% of what I listed there also exists in other mammals from Elephants and pigs to Patas monkeys and our Bonobo cousins to seals and dolphins.  The morphological expressions are not that significant at all, just that they all occurred to result in this naked Ape!

In fact "keeping my apeness in mind" actually makes me extremely proud to be grouped with these amazing primates.  Having spent endless hours conducting research and observations on both Chimpanzees and Gorillas I would rather be grouped with none other then these cousins of ours.  

The reason why your poet learned more from the horse was because the horse was wearing his saddle or in his stables where as the apes which he speaks of were thousands of kilometers away.  Had this poet been put into a position where he could have observed all aspects of our ape cousins he might just try and see if a chimpanzee could replace his horse as his companion.  Knowledge of an animal's intricate grasps concerning "love" and "goodness" come about through familiarity with the animals in question.  I grew up on a farm with horses and they don't have anything in comparison to the depth that is observed in our ape cousins.

Answer 11

I'm more of an ape than anything else.  Although I've known many guys who wished they were more of a horse, at least in one anatomical sense.