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Quality list of worst Murderers of 20th Cent, and all time. Stalin, Mao, Idi Amen, Kim Ill Jung, etc.?

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I am looking for a good list by a reputible group/person of the worst atrocities, murderers, genocides, etc. All time and of 20th Century.

Stalin and Mao of course. Also those like Poll Pot, though he did not kill near as many, he did manage to kill 1/3 of his whole country.

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  1. 55,000,000 Second World War (Some overlap w/Stalin. Includes Sino-Japanese War and Holocaust. Doesn't incl. post-war German expulsions) 1937/39-1945

    2 40,000,000 China: Mao Zedong's regime. (incl. famine) 1949-76

    3 20,000,000 USSR: Stalin's regime (incl. WW2-era atrocities) 1924-53

    4 15,000,000 First World War (incl. Armenian massacres) 1914-18

    5 8,800,000 Russian Civil War 1918-21

    6 4,000,000 China: Warlord & Nationalist Era 1917-37

    7 3,000,000 Congo Free State [n.1] (1900)-08

    8 2,800,000 Korean War 1950-53

    8 2,800,000 2nd Indochina War (incl. Laos & Cambodia) 1960-75

    10 2,500,000 Chinese Civil War 1945-49

    11 2,100,000 German Expulsions after WW2 1945-47

    12 1,900,000 Second Sudanese Civil War 1983-(99)

    13 1,700,000 Congolese Civil War [n.1] 1998-(99)

    14 1,650,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge Regime 1975-79

    15 1,500,000 Afghanistan: Soviet War 1980-89

    16 1,400,000 Ethiopian Civil Wars 1962-92

    17 1,250,000 East Pakistan: Massacres 1971

    18 1,000,000 Mexican Revolution 1910-20

    18 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq War 1980-88

    18 1,000,000 Nigeria: Biafran revolt 1967-70

    21 917,000 Rwandan Massacres 1994

    21 800,000 Mozambique: Civil War 1976-92

    23 675,000 French-Algerian War 1954-62

    24 600,000 First Indochina War 1945-54

    24 600,000 Angolan Civil War 1975-94

    26 500,000 Decline of the Amazonian Indians (1900-99)

    26 500,000 India-Pakistan Partition 1947

    26 500,000 First Sudanese Civil War 1955-72

    29 450,000 Indonesia: Massacre of Communists 1965-66

    30 365,000 Spanish Civil War 1936-39

    ? >350,000 Somalia: Chaos 1991-(99)

    ? >400,000 North Korea: Communist Regime 1948-(99

    The totals here are subject to the usual margins of error. They also contain all varieties of atrocity: battle deaths, civilian casualties of war, democide, famine caused by the economic disruption, etc.

    Although each of these is a distinct event, many are closely inter-related. Stalin (#3), Chiang Kai-shek (#6) and Mao Zedong (#2) were major players in World War Two (#1), which was clearly a sequel to World War One (#4). The Russian Civil War (#5), which paved the way for the rise of Stalin, was an integral outgrowth of World War One. The anarchy that swept China following the overthrow of the monarchy brought Chiang to power, put Mao in conflict with him, and encouraged the Japanese invasion. The fall of the Japanese Empire following World War Two left Korea up for grabs (#8), and Mao's army was among those who tried to grab it.

    It's very possible, therefore, that future historians will consider these events to be mere episodes of a single massive upheaval -- the "Hemoclysm", to give it a name (Greek for "blood flood") -- which took the lives of some 155 million people. All in all, over 80% of the deaths caused by Twentieth Century atrocities occurred in the Hemoclysm.

    It divides neatly into two parts -- Eastern and Western. The Eastern Hemoclysm began with the overthrow of the Manchu dynasty in China in 1911 leading to 38 years of Civil War and a Japanese invasion. In 1949, the bloodbath of the interregnum gave way to a greater bloodbath as the Communists consolidated power under Mao (who died in 1976). When seen as a continuum, this phase of Chinese history was a 65 year nightmare which took some 75 million lives.

    The first sparks of the Western Hemoclysm were the Balkan Wars (1912-13) which quickly ignited the First World War. This brought down four of the most powerful monarchies in Europe, leading to a power vacuum which was eventually filled by the n***s in Germany and the Communists in Russia, who came into conflict during the Second World War. The death of Stalin in 1953 finally extinguished the Western Hemoclysm after the loss of some 80 million lives.

    If it weren't for the fact that the Second World War is considered to be a single event, we could probably consider the Eastern and Western halves of the Hemoclysm to be distinctly unrelated pieces of history.

    A series of events which may or may not be related to the Hemoclysm are the wars and massacres which ravaged Indochina from 1945 to 1980. The first of these (1945-54) was obviously spawned by the Second World War, and we can easily trace a chain reaction which led from this to the next and the next (#24-#9-#14); however, each subsequent war took it farther and farther from the central events of the Hemoclysm, so I have not included the 5 million Indochinese dead in the total.

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    The 25 highest percentages of national populations killed during periods of mass brutality:

    TYRANT DEATHS

    Mao 40Million

    Hitler 34M

    Stalin 20M

    Well, that certainly looks like Mao is our man, but wait. Mao's largest crime is the Great Leap Forward, a bungled attempt to restructure the economy of China which created a famine that killed some 30M. If we confine our indictment to deliberate killings, we get this:

    TYRANT KILLINGS

    Hitler 34M

    Stalin 20M

    Mao 10M

    and these are just the problems we'll encounter if we accept my numbers without debate. If we want to use the estimates of other scholars, we can pin up to 50 million murders on Stalin, enough to push him to the top of the list regardless of definition. Or we can whittle him down to 10 million murders if we use the low end of the margin of error, and scrounge several more tens of millions for Mao, or away from him.

    So, the answer to the question of "Who is roasting on the hottest fires in h**l?" is "Well, that depends..."

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    Secondary Level of Mass Murderers:

    Obviously, we're going to run into the same vagueries and uncertainties when we try to rank numbers 4 through 10 on the list of the 20th Century's worst killers, but at least we can nominate the candidates. A pretty good case could be made that each of the following rulers (listed alphabetically) were responsible for over a million unjust, unnecessary or unnatural deaths by initiating or intensifying war, famine, democide or resettlement, or by allowing people under their control to do so:

    Chiang Kai-shek (China: 1928-49)

    Enver Pasha (Turkey: 1913-18)

    Hirohito (Japan: 1926-89)

    Hirota Koki (Japan: 1936-37)

    Ho Chi Minh (North Vietnam: 1945-69)

    Kim Il Sung (North Korea: 1948-94)

    Lenin (USSR: 1917-24)

    Leopold II (Belgium: 1865-1909)

    Nicholas II (Russia: 1894-1917)

    Pol Pot (Cambodia: 1975-79)

    Saddam Hussein (Iraq: 1969- )

    Tojo Hideki (Japan: 1941-44)

    Wilhelm II (Germany: 1888-1918)

    Yahya Khan (Pakistan: 1969-71)

    Here are a few of the century's rulers who could easily be indicted for causing hundreds of thousands of unnatural deaths. Although some might be acquitted due to inadequite evidence or mitigating circumstances, it might be a good idea to not build statues to them.

    Idi Amin (Uganda: 1971-80)

    Ion Antonescu (Romania: 1940-44)

    Ataturk (Turkey: 1920-38)

    Francisco Franco (Spain: 1939-75)

    Gheoghe Gheorghiu-Dej (Romania: 1945-65)

    Yakubu Gowon (Nigeria: 1966-76)

    Radovan Karadzic (Serbian Bosnia: 1991-96)

    Babrac Kemal (Afghanistan: 1979-87)

    Le Duan (Vietnam: 1976-86)

    Haile Mengistu (Ethiopia: 1974-91)

    Benito Mussolini (Italy: 1922-43)

    Ante Pavelic (Croatia: 1941-45)

    Antonio de Salazar (Portugal: 1932-68)

    Hadji Suharto (Indonesia: 1967-97)

    Tito (Yugoslavia: 1945-80)

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  2. People like Stalin, Amin, Hitler,etc. will always be recognized by their straighfoward approach at commitiing mass murder and genocide but much more is at work in the world than these men. The economic collapse of Ireland which led to the Great Hunger, also known as the Irish Potatoe famine, and similar events probably tops the aforementioned leaders although it was the doing of groups of men.

  3. Mao or Stalin in your top 2, they killed their OWN countrymen, which in my opinion is a little bit worse than killing people from somewhere else, albeit not by much.

  4. Hitler...hello?

  5. Oh, 6 Million Jews, 2 Million Disabled, Homosexual, Etc. (not perfect)

    Got any clues.

    Yes, you make a list of the worst murderers, and forgot the man who committed mass genocide and aimed to wipe out every human being on the planet who didn't comply with his perfect race.

    Some people never cease to amaze me, especially, let me guess, americans.

    If any one could EVER forget about ADOLF HITLER, then you need to brush up on you history.

  6. Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, I am sure there are more.... look it up on wikipedia

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