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Question

Hi

Can you tell me more about Adam?

Someone tell me Adam was in heaven before the creation of the first couple Adam and Eve?

thank you

God bless you

Claude

Answer 1

ADAM-GOD THEORY, ADAMIC LANGUAGE, ADAM-ONDI-AHMAN, ANCIENT OF DAYS, BATTLE OF THE GREAT GOD, EVE, FALL OF ADAM, FIRST FLESH, FIRST MAN, FORBIDDEN FRUIT, MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL, PRE-EXISTENCE, WAR IN HEAVEN. Our knowledge about Adam, and the exalted station held by him in the eternal providences of the Almighty, begins with an understanding of his pre-existent work and mission. By his diligence and obedience there, as one of the spirit sons of God, he attained a stature and power second only to that of Christ, the Firstborn. None of all the billions of our Father's children equalled him in intelligence and might, save Jesus only. He sat in the council of the gods in the planning of the creation of this earth, and then, under Christ, participated in the creative enterprise. (Abra. 3:22-26.) He was foreordained to come to earth as the father of the human race, and when Lucifer and one-third of the hosts of heaven rebelled, Adam (with the exalted title of Michael the Archangel) led the hosts of the righteous in the war in heaven. (Rev. 12:7-9.)  

Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed., p.17

"And the first man of all men have I called Adam," the Lord says, "which is many." (Moses 1:34; 3:7; 6:45; Abra. 1:3; 1 Ne. 5:11; D. & C. 84:16.) That is, Adam was placed on earth as the first of the human family and given a name which signifies many as pertaining to the greatness of the posterity which should flow from him.  

Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed., p.17

As to the manner in which Adam was placed on earth, the First Presidency of the Church (Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund) has given us this plain statement: "He took upon him an appropriate body, the body of a man, and so became a 'living soul.' . . . All who have inhabited the earth since Adam have taken bodies and become souls in like manner. . . . Man began life as a human being, in the likeness of our Heavenly Father. True it is that the body of man enters upon its career as a tiny germ or embryo, which becomes an infant, quickened at a certain stage by the spirit whose tabernacle it is, and the child, after being born, develops into a man. There is nothing in this, however, to indicate that the original man, the first of our race, began life as anything less than a man, or less than the human germ or embryo that becomes a man." (Man: His Origin and Destiny, p. 354.)  

Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed., p.17

Adam's great part in the plan of redemption was to fall from the immortal state in which he first existed on earth and thus bring mortality and death into the world. This he did, bringing temporal and spiritual death into the world, from the effects of which deaths the atonement of Christ was foreordained as a ransom. After the fall, Adam and Eve became the parents of all living. (Moses 5:11; D. & C. 27:11; 1 Ne. 5:11; 2:23-25.) We are his descendants and there are no persons who have ever lived on earth who have not had this same ancestry. "He is the father of the human family; . . . [the] head of the human family." (Teachings, p. 157.)  

Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed., p.17

Father Adam was one of the most noble and intelligent characters who ever lived. He began his earth life as a son of God, endowed with the talents and abilities gained through diligence and obedience in pre-existence. He is the head of all gospel dispensations (Teachings, pp. 167-169), the presiding high priest (under Christ) over all the earth; presides over all the spirits destined to inhabit this earth (Teachings, pp. 157-159); holds the keys of salvation over all the earth; and will reign as Michael, our prince, to all eternity. (D. & C. 78:16.) He was baptized (Moses 6:64-66), married for eternity, for death had not yet entered the world (Moses 3:21-25), had the fulness of the gospel (Moses 5:57-59), and following 930 years of existence after the fall went on to the paradise of God to await a glorious resurrection with Christ and the righteous saints. He has returned to earth in our day, bringing keys and authorities to the Prophet Joseph Smith (D. & C. 128:21); will soon preside at the great Adam-ondi-Ahman council (D. & C. 116); and finally will reign over his righteous posterity in the Patriarchal Order to all eternity. (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 90-106.)  

Mormon Doctrine  

    

Answer 2

Adam = Michael.  Same person.  Michael was present with Jehovah (Christ) to form the earth and everything that lives on it.  We ALL existed before this world was formed, as spirit children of God the Father.

The Adam-God theory, of course, is not understood by others and is not taught by the church.  It is not doctrine, but opinion that has been spun into something that it is not.  If you think about Adam being the first "father" on earth, essentially, he is the father of all of us - as earthly children.  God is still our Heavenly Father.  We do NOT believe Adam is God our Heavenly Father.  We believe he is the first earthly father, so should have some type of recognition for that... but not worshipped as a god, nor do we do that.

Hopefully that made sense.  If you still have questions, email me.

Answer 3

I dont hate any1 & have no affiliation with any religion. However, I must tell the truth that I know comes from God. It must be understood that God neither respects nor regards man or his religions. He exists with respect 2 & regard 2 the truth that stands forever unchanged (the Mormon answers u got r not biblical with respect 2 the full truth of God).

1rst, theres no such thing as another "testament" of Jesus Christ so mormons cant be Christians. The New Testament came from Jesus who understood the entire Old Testament & from that understanding (which was impossible unless God was with Jesus) He spoke & did all that fulfilled the OT prophecies & covenant. The Apostles could notve written the NT unless Jesus allowed them 2 understand & remember all that He did unless Jesus allowed them 2 (Lk 24:25-27,45). Only an incredibly Intelligent Being could make this happen.

The NT comes from, agrees with, adheres 2 the full purpose that God laid out in the OT & builds upon that. There4, anything anyone claims as the truth from God must fully comply with the truth of both the OT & NT or its not from God or Jesus. No claim can vary even 1 degree from what is written in the Bible. In the OT God states that He never changes (Mal 3:6). In the NT it states that Jesus never changes (Heb 13:8). Since Jesus did exactly what God wanted Him 2 do (Jn 8:28; 5:30) then He didnt change what God set as true since the very beginning.

The reason the Books in the Bible r included is b/c they all stand on the same purpose in the same frame of mind on the same foundation & structure (the Apocrypha or "lost" books dont adhere 2 this framework). The only thing changed thru Jesus is the way 1 achieves abiding by whats in the OT (that which is necessary). That is 1 must go thru Jesus whom is perfect & there4, upheld & fulfilled the Law of the OT (purpose 4 Jesus' mission on earth so that He could be the perfect sacrifice 4 our sins). Any claim of another testament or different teaching is equal 2 another gospel & not the 1 true genuine Gospel of Jesus Christ. Any1 accepting another gospel, testament or teaching cant be a true Christian b/c its not from God (which the FLDS, LDS, RCc, Islam & others fail 2 understand).

Regrettably many dont actually take seriously whats stated in the Bible (any revelations or visions must exactly match & reflect the truth that never changes in both the OT & NT or its not from God). Many think &/or act as if they are smarter than God. **But God outsmarted man - the Bible is the only 1 that cant be properly understood without going thru Jesus Christ & having faith in Him (Jn 14:6; 5:39; II Cor 3:14 - If the Jewish people cant pierce the veil over the OT without Jesus (by His instructions) then rest-assured all gentiles cant, including Mormons). Thats why theres many interpretations & many thinking its all fairytales (& why the LDS's "Another Testament" cant follow or agree with the truth of the Bible).

Its why theres many religions, built on what man wants God 2 be like & its true most made many mistakes (many fatal) over time. I realized they cant all be right (Theres 1 Bible - why so many interpretations? - II Pet 1:**19-21). I found religion wont teach u much about God (they cant teach what they don't know). But it doesnt mean God doesnt know what He's doing. Who knows more about a house, the 1 who built it or those who move into it later?

The main point many miss is:  Jesus is the only 1 in history that stated that no 1 can find our real God except thru Him (Jn 14:6; 3:3,5; 5:39; 10:1,7; Acts 4:12). This means "the" truth was complete & there4 finished thru what Jesus taught & did (NT reinforces the OT). There4, any so-called new teaching & any other religious beliefs (including "another testament" - the BOM doesnt uphold the same truth of the Bible) r invalid, null & void & cant lead u 2 God. The truth is either the whole truth or its not the truth. The truth is the absence of any lie. Either Jesus told the only whole truth or He's just a false prophet among many whom should be disregarded. This would also mean God must not exist either (He either knows what He's doing or He cant be God).

***If Jesus came from God as His Son then religions r wrong about Jesus. If Jesus Christ is wrong then the Bible & the Quran (doesnt agree with the Bible), the Book of Mormon (no such thing as "another testament), JWs (rewrote some Bible verses - New World Translation) & others r wrong. We cant have it two ways. Theres only 1 Jesus & there can only be 1 true Gospel (II Cor 11:4; Gal 1:6,9; I Tm 6:3). If Jesus is whom He says He is then Muhammad (muslim follower of Islam), Joseph Smith (Mormon = Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints), Jahovah's Witnesses (JWs = Watchtower), Most Catholics, many Protestants, Ellen White (7th Day Adventists), Mary Baker (Christian Scientists), the moonies (Unification church), Church of Scientology (Dynanetics - L Ron Hubbard) & others presenting other teachings & practices r the false prophets & teachers & should be disregarded. But I can assure u the truth is in the Bible (where Jesus was coming from in everything He did & said).

But no matter how much many well-meaning people (religious or not) read the Bible they cant find the real Jesus Christ without going directly to Jesus thru His Biblical instructions (Jn 5:39; 10:1,7; 3:3,5). Many dont understand that they may be able 2 fool themselves & others but no1 can fool the God of Israel. The BOM is a mixture of stolen text from the Bible, things contrary to the Bible & things not in the Bible. 4 instance, Adam & Eve were never in Missouri. Joseph Smith's so-called visions & revelations have nothing 2 do with knowing or following the real Jesus Christ. The Bible says not 2 go beyond what is written (I Cor 4:6).

Regarding Bibles I recommend the English Standard Version (ESV) as its an easy 2 read but more accurate version than what others will suggest. Its very important 2 understand the most accurate Bibles r those that r word 4 word or a combination of word 4 word + the right amount of literal translation (4 readability). Presently, theres over 30 versions of the Bible. Only a few r translated close 2 whats in the original text. The ESV adheres 2 the word for word method while making it easy 2 read (literal method) - the best accurate Bible 4 the younger crowd - but its good 4 parents, children & others 2 be reading the same Bible 4 good communication.

If u want 2 know the actual full truth - Whoever seeks Jesus Christ, the Son of God, with all his heart & soul will find our real God & His Kingdom (u shall know the truth & it will set u free). But this saying is true - u can lead a horse 2 water but u cant make them drink. After all, why should God want u 2 live with Him forever if u dont want 2 know Him (reason 4 free will)? The truth of God remains forever while things of a man dies with him, including his religions & his gods, created in his image.

On 1 hand, God hates us b/c of our sins - neither being a good person as judged by men or religion can save u. On the other hand, God loves us dearly enough 2 send His Son 2 die for our sins - so that thru Jesus our sins could be forgiven if we sincerely turn to Him - Theres everlasting hope only in Jesus Christ & His Word - the Bible.

Those that r wise get away from religion & seek the actual truth.

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Answer 4

This is the Adam-God Doctrine, taught by Joseph Smith.  It postulates that "Adam" was actually God the Father who incarnated upon the earth.

"Adam" is considered the priesthood title of the Firstborn man of every Earth (of which our own is neither the first nor the last.)  When it is stated that "Christ brings you to the Father" the Father is of course Adam.  He is known as Michael prior to this.

Note that the names/titles will vary depending on whether one is referring to the pre-existence or to temporal manifestation, thus:

Creation: ELHIM - YHVH - MICHAEL

Temporal: Creator - Redeemer - Testator

All the above names are only Priesthood titles or offices in the Holy Order.

Elohim – council head and creator

Jehovah – “Michael’s” father, not Jesus.

Michael – assumed “Adam” office.

This is also connected with the Seven Dispensation:

Seven Dispensations

1 ADM create

2 Enoch

3 Noah

4 Abraham

5 Moses

6 Christ        redeem

7 J.S.              close

Christ was resurrected by his “uplines,” Adam and YHVH.

At the (future) Council of Adam-Ondhi-Ahman, the four patriarchs yield keys to Adam, who gives them to his son, Jesus.

Then, everyone “moves up” one step.  This is the end of one “eternity” (2,155,000,000 years.)

Next round, Joseph Smith plays Redeemer “doing what I see my Father do.”  Jesus will fulfill the role of Adam.  Etc.

(Joseph Smith currently holds the office of the Holy Ghost.)

Answer 5

Adam was Michael the Archangel in the pre-existence. Because of his valiance in the war against Lucifer he was chosen to be the first father.

If you want anymore, just ask.

EDIT: Light had a very long answer. I don't know if I believe in the Adam - God theory. I have yet to do more research on it.

Answer 6

Adam was the first man placed on Earth by God.  God formed his physical body and placed into it the spirit which had previously resided with God [along with everyone else who has ever lived upon the face of the earth]. This is part of why we believe we are literally the spirit children of God sent to earth to receive physical, mortal bodies.  

Answer 7

Wow, such long answers for something that has never existed.  I understand giving answers out of holy books for questions about doctrine, but could any one of you prove that what you are saying is the truth?  It really sounds to me that what you believe is just nonsense.  Help me out?