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Are other muslims sinning by not accepting Mr. Qadiyani as the Madhi and Messiah ? Can you please back this up with relevant quotes. Thanks

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  1. Astaghfirullah. What a maniac that Mister Qadeyani was.

    33:40 [And know, O believers, that] Mohammad is not the father of any one of your men, but is God’s Apostle and the Seal of all Prophets. And God has indeed full knowledge of everything.

    7:157 those who shall follow the [last] apostle, the unlettered Prophet whom they shall find described in the Torah that is with them, and [later on] in the Gospel: [the Prophet] who will enjoin upon them the doing of what is right and forbid them the doing of what is wrong, and make lawful to them the good things of life and forbid them the bad things, and lift from them their burdens and the shackles that were upon them [aforetime]. Those, therefore, who shall believe in him, and honour him, and succour him, and follow the light that has been bestowed from on high through him-it is they that shall attain to a happy state."


  2. Well for starters lets leave Hazrat Ahmad (as) aside a moment.

    According to YOUR understanding of Islam, when Imam Mahdi and Messih does come and you accept him, what would YOU think of someone who rejects him?

    Think about it :)

    Now, here is what Hazrat Ahmad (as) has said about those who reject him.

    Status of people who reject The Messiah and the Mahdi

    'From the beginning, I have been of the view that no one becomes kafir or dajjal by rejecting my claim. Such a one would certainly be in error and astray from the right path. I do not call him faithless but he who rejects the truth that God Almighty has disclosed to me would be in error and astray from the straight path.

    I do not designate anyone who believes in the Kalimah as a kafir, unless by rejecting me and calling me a kafir, he himself becomes a kafir. In this matter, my opponents have always taken the lead. They called me kafir and prepared edicts against me.

    I did not take the lead in preparing edicts against them. They would be prepared to confess that if I am a Muslim in the estimation of God Almighty, then by calling me kafir they themselves become kafirs according to the edict of the Holy Prophet [sa].

    Thus, I do not call them kafir; they themselves fall within the purview of the edict of the Holy Prophet [sa]'. [Tiryaq-ul-Qulub, Ruhani Khaza'in, Vol. 15, pp. 432-433]

    So we do not consider anyone a kafir.  But if they choose to call us kafir, then per the hadeeth of the Prophet (sa), they have decided their own fate.  However, an Ahmadi Muslim would never call, nor consider anyone who recites Kalima a kafir.

    You may find quotes from our Khalifas or even Hazrat Ahmad (as) that say that Muslims who reject him are "kuffar ul Masih" i.e. Disbelievers in Hazrat Ahmad (as) as the Messih, but that you already agree with.  As far as Kuffar ul Islam, as long as a person recites Kalima, Ahmadi Muslims consider that person a Muslim

    Allah bless all Muslims.

    EDIT:

    @Massi - Yes brother I read the Qur'an very thoroughly.  And no, the Qur'an does not say what you're proposing.  Feel free to email me if you'd like evidence.  Jazakallah, Allah bless you.

    EDIT:

    @Asker - I'm sure you have read all the quotes you cited right?  I mean, you wouldn't have gotten them from a hate website?  

    Please confirm that you have read these quotes in full, rather than getting them from hate websites, and as Allah is my witness that I will provide perfectly logical answers.

    You can prove it by emailing me the full excerpt.  Jazakallah.

    (Keep in mind that if you are just copy/pasting, you are no different than what Christians do to the Holy Qur'an when calling Islam a violent religion)

    love for all, hatred for none

  3. As Mirza claimed to be a prophet step by step so his statements r also dfferent and contradictory of each other.

    @1qfac.. As u asked from muslims

    "According to YOUR understanding of Islam, when Imam Mahdi and Messih does come and you accept him, what would YOU think of someone who rejects him?"

    Yes we will call them Kafir who will reject & insult Esa Ibn maryam

    So Mr !qfac...be brave and honest ( leave hypocrisy) and call all other muslim ,who call mirza a LIAR ,KAFIR.

    AS ur prophet and Khulfa declared all muslims Kafir whop rejected Mirza.

    Qadyanis r master of Misinterpretation Of Quran And Hadith and Twisting statements ,I have personally Experienced Talking to their Scholars

    I will Sincerely and Humbly Request All my Muslim Brothere/sisters not to argue with Qadyanis ,Unless u have sound knowledge of Quran & Hadith ,

    Otherwise there r chances to Fall in their trap.

  4. @1qafactor , do u realy read QURAN?!! r u a muslim ?!

    according to QURAN,there will be not prophet or messenger after prophet Muhammed (pbuh)  , so whos the h**l is that mirza

    u gonna say he is the Mahdi ,so ur answer will be "no one know the Mahdi ,but we can know him by some earnests" , but no one had seen one

    u will say he the Messiah ,ur answer will be the same , and if u don't know the Messiah( Isa) will stay 40 years on the earth ,but as we see ur mirza is dead since more than 40years

    @1qafactor, u said u read QURAN!!!

    can u tell me what does this verse mean

    قال الله تعالى: (ما كان محمد أبا أحد من رجالكم ولكن رسول الله وخاتم النبيين).

  5. This is what he said about us.

    "All Muslims regard my books with reverence and care and benefit from their sublime thoughts except those who are the offspring of prostitutes (b******s); God has put a seal upon their hearts and they do not accept me."

          (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 5, Page 547-548; Mirat-o-Kamalat-i-Islam, P. 547;

          Aeena-e-Kamalat Islam, P.547-548)

          [Mirza Ghulam translated this Arabic word as "b*****d" in

           Roohany Khazaen Vol. 11, P. 282)

    "There is nothing more foul than a pig in the world.  But the ulema who oppose me are more foul than pigs."

          (Anjam-i-Atham, P. 21)

    Is this how a Prophet or even a rightly guided individual would speak?
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