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Question for extremist feminist; what is a submissive wife to you?

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I have seen battles here on submissive wives vs. feminist and I think its really a battle of definition. So I asked submissive wives but now I want to know from the extremist feminist or just the normal feminist what is your issue with a submissive wife? What do you think they do that is so horrible or degrading?

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  1. I'm not an extremist, but my definition of a "submissive wife" who willingly submits herself to her husband... She thinks he's the head of the relationship, has more say in family matters, etc.

    I have nothing against submissive wives. They can choose that path if it's what they like best. I'm just opposed to the notion that a woman HAS to be submissive. Having a choice makes all the difference.


  2. If someone has the benefit of choice, and they are educated and capable of taking care of themselves should the need arise, then if they choose to live a certain way that is their prerogative.

    But then, I do not think stay-at-home moms should be banned.  Just know I'm never gonna be one myself.

  3. Hey I'm an extremist feminist. According to my logic, a submissive wife is one that refers to her partner as 'husband'.

  4. I just wanted to point out that I feel myself to be a normal feminist, and I'm not a submissive wife, but that my answer remains the same - I probably should have waited till you asked this one instead of just jumping in, eh?  :-)

  5. If you're a feminist you believe in choice-so extreme or not-you believe a woman is an adult and can choose to have a relationship with a partner however they like. Same for men-if they want to be a submissive husband-then they are free to make that choice as well. There's a huge difference between choosing to be submissive and being expected or forced to be submissive as women were expected to be in the past.

    I don't see what being submissive has to do with being a stay at home wife or husband-you could be submissive and still work outside the home...

  6. Ithink there is a issue with this whole things . there is a difrent that ppl does take to an account. the bible talkes about summision, however the summition is to to wives that are believers and their husbands as well.God will not summit anyone to a men that does not meet the requirement, to take care of his wife and take the role as a men , now this days is very hard to find a men that carries his title as he is supose too. some mans rather have the wife make all the decisions and lay back and have no resposnasability when the decisions are not the right decisions then they compalined and thats where the problem begins , not only that buit thats whgeere the lack of respect come from a wife ,toward the husband, in fact i think that is the reason why marriesge have lost its value in our society. .iam not a feminist . but i would rathr be alone then have someone that does not fit the shoes of what a men should be according to God. and nature. if iam going to be miserable with aman ,i rather be miserable alone and don't have to wash dirty chones,

  7. Uh, I think you've been hallucinating. Who has said SAHMs should be banned?

    Oh, there may have been men posing as feminists on this site (such as a clone of one of the more frequent posters), but no one actualy SAYS no person should ever be allowed to stay home and take care of their kids.

    At least, I've never heard of such a thing.

    But SAHM -- or SAHD (Daddy) -- is not the same issue as 'submissive' -- as a person can be a stay-at-home parent, but not obey the commands of their superior spouse.

    THAT'S the part that bugs me about all this "women should be submissive" thing. One person should not be in charge of another adult person, or make every decision for that person.

    An adult shouldn't have to "ask permission" to do things that don't effect the other. And when a couple does contemplate one of them doing something that effects the couple, they should both have equal say, rather than one being the Decider, and the other the Obeyer.

    It's not that I have an issue with sumissive wives, per se; it's that no one has the right to tell me that that's what _I_ must do.

    I think it's a mistake for anyone to give all their power over to another human, but if someone wants to do that, I don't think it's really anyone else's business. It's your right to give up your power to another.

    But what makes me go ballistic are those who keep telling me that's what I should do. No I shouldn't!

    Going back to the problems with a submissive person. No human is infallible. In a decades-long relationship, it's simply not true that one of two people is always right and the other always wrong. Thus, it makes no sense for one to decide everything.

    Furthermore, it's unhealthy for one human to have that much power. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    The one with all the power comes to think only their thoughts, feelings, and wants really matter, as they are used to consulting only themselves; over time, they begin to think they're infallible, and the other not worth listening to. This is human psychology.

    If one person knows it's ultimately THEIR say that has weight, they have less reason to take the needs of the other into account, and to dismiss what they think.

    No one person has a monopoly on truth or insight. It's better for all when they take advantage of BOTH members' thinking and perspectives. You get better decisions through consensus than through obedience of one person to the other.

  8. I suppose that a submissive wife obeys her husband and gives him authority. I don't live this lifestyle..my husband and I are a team, but some women wish to live this way and that is their right. I am an extreme feminist, sorry you are not getting the enraged answer you are looking for. I am indifferent towards submissive wives..different strokes for different folks.

  9. I don't think there are any extremist feminists here!

    Edit: The only posters here who advocate banning are the clones- and we are smart enough to figure which ones they are.

  10. It is difficult to understand the cognitive ability of a radical/extremist feminist.

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