Question for pro-choicers...?

Question

What is your opinion of gun control?

I am asking because many on here say women have the "right" to kill their unborn children, that it is one of their "freedoms." I'm just curious if you feel the same way about gun ownership as a right.

Answer 1

Fetuses aren't children. Children are people. Fetuses are not.

A fetus has never loved. A fetus has never given friendship. A fetus is not self-aware.

Babies and fetuses are two different things.

Another thing, why is it your right to choose? Why must women be forced to live by your values? What makes your opinion more valid than theirs? Jesus?

As far as gun ownership goes, I'm undecided. I enjoy hunting, and see no reason why rifles whouldn't be allowed. However, guns also kill people (people, you know those things that fetuses aren't?), and if introducing the need for a license which wouldn't be too hard for the average citizen to get could save lives in the long run, I think that could be a good idea. I also see no need for Uzis and Assault Rifles in gun stores, seeing as the Reds aren't coming anymore.

As I said, undecided.

Answer 2

Gun ownership is a right given in the US Constitution.

Abortion is not.

In response to: "If you are Pro-life and vote for the death penalty, then how can you say someone is killing their child. Same thing your pointing out honestly."

The death penalty is taking the life of a guilty murderer because they took the life of the innocent.

Abortion is taking the life of a scientifically-proven living human being, a separate from the mother. Simple DNA science there, no politicking.

I'm not sure why the pro-choice people have to deny all science to argue their point that "you know you're not killing anything" which is just scientifically false, a lie. Is that all they have left, outright lying?

In response to "A fetus has never loved. A fetus has never given friendship. A fetus is not self-aware."

How do you know a fetus is not self-aware? How do you know a fetus has never loved? Your arguments here allow for killing people who are mentally handicapped. How cruel!

Answer 3

A soul enters the body when the newborn draws it's first breath or prana (life force) and becomes independent of the mother's womb. Until then when it's still a fetus, it's just a mechanical organism that is very much a part of the mother, the same way a person's body carries on mechanical functions such as making the heart beat.

Answer 4

I fully support women's right to own a gun and to use them to protect their rights from anti-abortionists.

Answer 5

Oh my, another one.

I'm pro-choice, against gun ownership. Abortion is not a murder, it's removing a fetus, not a baby! They can only abort a fetus until 10-13th weeks, when it's genderless.

Also, your comparision doesn't really make sense. Guns kill people. Not something in me, in MY body.

EDIT: Lady, we can discuss this topic forever. Obviously, I can't change your mind, you can't change mine. Abortion 'right' is a very personal issue and the decision should leave to the mother, noone else. Especially a government has no right to say anything. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. I would probably not get an abortion myself, but I wanna decide it myself. Because it's my body, my fetus, my future baby.

Answer 6

I support the right to own a gun, however there are many revisions that need to be made to gun ownership.  

I AM PRO-CHOICE and you state that, many on here say women have the "right" to kill their unborn children."  Those are your word my dear, if your pro-choice you know your not KILLING anything!

With the point you are trying to make, I will set a similar tone for you.

If you are Pro-life and vote for the death penalty, then how can you say someone is killing their child.  Same thing your pointing out honestly.

Answer 7

My opinion about gun control is similar to my views on abortion if you don't like guns don't own one.  If you don't like abortion don't have one.

Answer 8

yea ,if you say so.

Answer 9

I also believe it's a right to liquefy people who's minds are a harbor and training ground for stupidity.

I've never heard of a gun killing anybody, actually. Oddly enough, I've never heard of a gun just going off. Nor have I ever heard of a gun that grew legs, loaded itself and then shot someone. I have heard of people shooting guns at each other, but I've never heard of guns shooting each other.

Oh, and since you are so compassionate. Why would you want to remove guns? I believe that people who commit suicide, or commit crimes and use guns would ultimately find a way to do those things without them, albeit much more cruelly and inhumane. By taking away guns are you saying you support people committing suicide and killing others in brutal and disgusting ways ? Such as stoning them ? Or beating them ? Or hanging them ?

Answer 10

It's fine to have guns, I don't dispute that.  It's not fine to allow every gun imaginable to be bought and handled by your everyday American.  And by the way, you're simplifying the pro-choice ideas down to a very menial level.  Women have the "right" to keep their own bodies from harm (as many pregnancies are harmful to the mother).  Women have the "freedom" to choose whether having a baby is the right thing to do after conception following rape.  To take either of these away is to try and prevent abortion all together.  No one is pro-abortion, in that they support every person getting an abortion as much as they want.  Pro-choicers support the ability of women to deal with difficult situations that arise from pregnancies, as their lives are being lived, and we'd like to keep it that way.

Answer 11

This question presupposes that the two are in the same realm, they are not.

Abortions happen (or should happen) before the third trimester, although there is the potential for it to become a human, it is not. At that time of the pregnancy it is only a fetus, a human is much more than that. A chimp is much more than that, even a dog is more than that, they are self aware, the fetus is not.

I know of nobody that argues they have the right to kill their unborn child, they do argue they have the right to terminate the pregnancy. Not the same thing.

Gun ownership, in my opinion should not be a right but a privilege, better yet, all weapons should be banned.

Answer 12

I think people should own guns and I think guns should be regulated and controlled.  

Gun ownership is not a right, it is a privilege, like driving a car.  You can lose your license if you get too many tickets or in too many accidents.  You should lose your gun license if you commit a violent crime, or are deemed by more than one doctor to be a danger to yourself and others.

Deciding what I do with my body is definitely my right.  It has to do with what's inside of my own body, not an inanimate object outside of my body.  

It's really a stupid comparison.

Answer 13

Pro Choicers are undoubtably liberal.  Hard to call yourself a conservative and be pro-death....errr....I mean pro-choice.  But if you're asking if liberals and pro-choicers are for gun control, then they ABSOLUTELY are.  It's wrong for people to own guns and potentially kill each other with guns, but ripping out unborn babies piece by piece out of the mothers womb is perfectly okay.  

Answer 14

I control my hand-canon just fine thank you!

When pro-lifers start having funerals for each and every miscarried blood smear and demand that they be given a social security number, I'll start taking them seriously.

Answer 15

Absolutely gun ownership.

As I believe in some limits on abortion I also believe that background checks are necessary and some limits on automated weapons.  

Answer 16

No, we have a right to make medical decisions concerning our own bodies.  I've explained that there is no such thing as "unborn children" to you at least 10 times.  What guns have to do with that is a mystery to me other than the supreme court has ruled ad nausem on both issues.  

It appears I'll need a gun to protect my rights for freedom-hating, nanny state cons who want to take my rights away.

Do leprechauns have the right to abort their unborn fairies?

Answer 17

It is a right.... no one is trying to take that away from you.  

Answer 18

I've never seen a pro-choice person say that anyone has the right to kill an unborn child, since pro-choice people don't consider the procedure to be akin to killing anything. And, even though there is no possible correlation any intelligent person could make between the two, I support the Second Amendment's protection of the rights of citizens to bear arms.

Answer 19

Sure, its a right just like it is my right to have the government protect me by passing laws so mental patients and violent excons can't get ahold of guns legally.

Answer 20

Before you can have an intelligent discussion on these two hot button issues that goes beyond name calling such as "hypocrite" and "fundie", you need to define what you mean AND what they mean.

    "Gun control" can range from a very minor restriction that almost no one would object to such as a law that requires a criminal background check on a gun shop owner to one that almost everyone would disagree with such as a blanket prohibition of gun ownership by all civilians. The opinions of the same person will vary depending on the level of restriction that is being proposed or discussed.

    Killing "unborn children" can range from preventing conception to preventing implantation to abortions in the first, second and third trimesters.

    Then you need to determine what is a "right" I assume you mean an existing legal right, but perhaps you mean the way the law should be or perhaps you mean a moral "right".

    As for existing legal rights the answer is easy: Women legally have the right to terminate a first trimester pregnancy at this time and the supreme court has recently said that the second amendment right to bear arms extends to private citizens.

Answer 21

Stop the holier - than - thou attitude. If I thought abortion was murder than I would never approve of it. But a first trimester clump of cells is not a human being comparable to you or I. It does not feel. It does not think. And it is not the jurisdiction of government to enforce your religious belief in ensoulment upon fertilization.

I am pro-gun rights. Everyone law abiding has the right to bear arms. A thug is less likely to break into my home if I have Colonel Colt on the bed side table.