Question is: Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing, any one thing that is true? ?

Question

I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I got was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got there was silence for a long time and eventually one person said, 'I do know one thing -- it ought not to be taught in high school'." (Dr. Colin Patterson (Senior Palaeontologist, British Museum of Natural History, London). Keynote address at the American Museum of Natural History, New York City, 5 November 1981.)

Answer 1

The room full of scientists realised that you were trying to test them, and they have much more important things to do than get into a conversation with a Christian who was trying to convert them.

As far as you quoting two scientists that say there is no tangible link to completely prove the theory of evolution, well, I'm very sure I can find two 'Christians' on Y!A who do not believe that the bible is true.

Two 'scientists' out of many hundreds of thousands does not a conclusive argument make...

Answer 2

You say:"No one can back up the theory of evolution"

Which is untrue.  Very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very untrue.

About as untrue as it is possible to be.  The clue is in the name: Theory.  If it was not backed up by anything, it would be a hypothesis.  It is a Theory only because it is backed up by *all* the evidence *ever* discovered, and contradicted by *none* of the evidence ever discovered.

Go to Talk origins (see source,below).  All your questions should be dealt with there, quite thoroughly.

I am sad to have to tell you that people have been lying to you about a lot of things.  Please: do take the time to do some research on your own, and with an open mind.  The truth is far more beautiful than you can imagine.

That is what the word "Theory" means.

Answer 3

I truly did not know this was a debate over creationism and and evolutionist till I read the answers.

What I see is that you are trying to convince people to believe or understand the way you do, to accept God through your processes, that does not work.

If one does not come to God through the processes He (God) provides, then your being creative will not going to be widely accepted. You might as well call up a mist that would work just as well, instead of the continuing debate, discussion, and arguing needlessly.

This I do not understand.

Answer 4

Here's the one true thing about evolution that cannot be refuted.It is an accusation that says there is no God and we have no purpose or reason for being here.

Answer 5

You're a liar you've never met any of those people let alone asked them a question. I'll say it again. If you can disprove scientific theories then get out there and get the degree in whatever field necessary and do the thousands of hours of research required to disprove it. Stop wasting your time here , because you are just proving that you are an idiot. Furthermore I bet you don't know one real scientist.

Answer 6

It is the only theory of origin that can be backed up with hard scientific evidence. People can show it to you, but they cannot make you understand it, or accept it.  

Answer 7

Because  evolution  and the big bang

  are  lie,s

  God  told us how  it happened  and   man had  made his own

  theory  that  is not  true,

  Satan  uses  people  in this manner  trying  to  disprove God

  but they  will never do it,  because  God  does not lie.

Answer 8

Only micro "adaptation" has evidence 2 back it up as being true. However, theres a lot of things unanswered with macro-evolution.

Some scientific finds r true but it doesnt mean "all" claims by Scientists/others r true (many dont take time & energy 2 carefully think thru things b4 coming out 4 or against it). Many dont properly take in2 account all it takes 2 create a universe/life (they tend 2 focus on things "seeming" 2 support what they want 2 &/or u 2 believe).

In science we established laws of physics. We can't see actual laws of physics. Rather, we see the results & interpret & apply them in accordance with whats been observed 2 be true thru experiments/calculations. Same is true regarding God. Just b/c we can't see God doesn't mean He doesnt exist.

There may be forensic evidence 4 some micro-evolution & 4 some "appearance" of macro-evolution but most is inconclusive @ best & pure conjecture @ worst. Finding the beginning & reason 4 it all is unattainable by scientific method alone (a billions of years old cold case). We didnt see it take place.

But things in creation show an Intelligent Being was involved or the universe & we wouldnt b here (ignoring where it came from). Standing out r:

1. We have 2 lungs & 2 kidneys - each has a near perfect mirror-image companion organ. No matter how u try 2 explain it away, making a mirror-image organ takes full reverse engineering, knowledge & understanding of its companion's functions & purpose or it cant be created.

2. Our bodies r highly symmetrical from 1 side 2 the other. Its impossible unless 1 has an outside overview position allowing full comprehension of the entire organism (i.e. feather color patterns).

3. We have 2 arms & 2 legs. Each is perfectly designed & precisely engineered 2 work with its mirror-image companion. An outside position is required 2 fully comprehend the whole organism & purpose 4 all parts, 2 create it 2 such perfection.

4. The "being" of a cell is confined 2 within the cell membrane & cant know or b aware of much beyond itself. A cell is magnitudes more intelligent than all humanity & has amazing powers 2 know all of an organism's functions & purpose or it isnt the "brain" behind creation 4 many millions of incredibly diverse species. If evolution had a chance of being the source of creation it would require there only be 2 or 3 "kinds" of different bodies with several related species (it would take many billions of trillions of light years longer than the universe has existed 2 have the slightest chance of producing many millions of species of such incredible diversity)

5. Many cells of an organism never contact others much beyond its tiny cell. Mostly, cells & organisms r just copies of their parents doing about the same things as all ancestors. U wont find a bird whom builds a better nest than their parents & their chicks build even a better nest. U wont find a bear improving his living conditions (or passing them 2 his young). Either a cell has 2 lives - 1 copying their parents & 1 secret life working on improvements or someone of greater intelligence than all mankind created everything.

6. Others point 2 DNA (or RNA in the 1rst organisms). But a cell needs DNA 2 function & DNA cant function without a cell. So, we have a which came 1rst a cell or DNA problem. Without 1rst having great intelligence, full knowledge & understanding of how an organism is constructed it cant be created. If an ape finds a combination lock he wouldnt know what it was & even if he turns the dial over & over again he wouldnt know what he was doing & the chances against getting it right is astronimical - especially if it had 150 or more no. 2 find in the right order & even if he got that far he still wouldnt know what a lock is 4.

A cell has little "inteligence" & DNA is much more complex than a combination lock (especially in higher life forms) so the odds against figuring out & using DNA (in the correct sequence) is many magnitudes higher than 4 a lock). RNA/DNA r building blocks common to all life - having 98% of other species' DNA doesnt prove evolution. DNA like a computer code (but more complex) requires great intelligence 2 identify & assign its proper order - its useless unless u understand it. Give a book to an ape. Its useless to him as he cant learn from whats written - intelligence is required.

7. In the fossil record we dont find millions of trial & error organisms that should exist if natural selection or fittest survivor is the source of creation (no organisms existed be4). The odds r so great against near perfection happenning 4 many millions of greatly diverse species, it couldnt take place unless 1 had full knowledge & understanding of what theyre doing BEFORE millions of organisms could be created 2 such precision. If not true millions of misfit organisms with mistakes, having only 1 or 3 eyes in odd places, 1 leg growing out of a head or where an arm should be or a fin where a leg should be should exist. Millions more misfit fossils should exist than of the perfection found in nature.

8. U won't find species like a horse mating a goat, a frog mating fish, a rabbit mating an otter, a lizzard mating a bird, a cow mating a hog, etc. Species with similar genes/characteristics rarely mate in the wild. Only a few succeed @ bearing young. Its very rare that a wild crossbreed/hybrid reaches maturity or can bear over 1 litter (usually that litter cant produce or has complications that kills off the crossbreed). Only human intervention brings more success but even that has lead 2 some bad results.

9. Evolution processes being "the" source of all creation would be like having a blind man build a car he's never heard of, seen, touched, heard or rode in. It cant be done without 1rst teaching him about the functions, necessary parts & how 2 put it all together so the car will function.

10. Look @ the huge amount of intelligence, knowledge, understanding, time & energy used 2 create & constantly improve an airplane's capabilities (& many mistakes). If people didnt fully learn what 2 do we'd still be earthbound.

11. Creation is astronomically more complex than any airplane. The more complex an organism, the greater the amount of intelligence, knowledge & understanding needed 2 create it. It can only be done by an Intelligent Designer who already fully understands what He's doing - the sheer complexity of man is evidence of God (airplanes show we're created in God's image - God had 2 be the source of all creation or it couldnt exist let alone evolve).

12. An incredibly Intelligent Being, capable of building a universe, would know the environment His earthly organisms are 2 occupy. So, He built in adaptability so His organisms could survive various earthly environments.

13. Earth happens to be in the best possible orbit 2 support life. It has the right amount of gravity, the right axis & rotation speed, the right atmosphere & needed amount of water. The moon's the right size & in the right orbit 2 provide tidal cycles needed by organisms. Just 1 or 2 relatively small variants in our orbit/envirnment & most likely life would be very different & higher forms of life wouldve died off in a relatively short time, if they couldve survived.

So, believing evolution's "the" cause of the universe & many millions of incredibly diverse species, takes a huge amount of faith (u must ignor the problems listed above). But if 1 is fair minded u might realize its more plausible that God designed, engineered & created everything.

Theres many religions, built on what man wants God 2 be like & most made many mistakes (many fatal). I realized they cant all be right (Theres 1 Bible - why so many interpretations? II Pet 1:**19-21). I found religion wont teach u much about God (they cant teach what they don't know). This doesnt mean God doesnt know what He's doing.

The main point many miss is Jesus Christ is the only 1 in history whom stated that He's "the" way, "the" truth & "the" life & no 1 gets 2 God except by Him (Jn 14:6; 5:39; 10:1,7; Acts 4:12) & is the only 1 whom came from God. Its fully true or theres no truth & cant be any God (He knows what He's doing or He's not God).

Since Jesus is the only way 2 know God, it means "the" whole truth was complete & finished thru Jesus' teaching. So any claimed new teaching & any other religious beliefs or from self-proclaimed prophets & teachers r null & void & have no purpose 4 finding God. God always knew all Jesus was 2 speak & do.

In fact, Jesus couldnt have done nor said all He did unless He had full knowledge & understanding of the entire OT (the NT didnt exist in Jesus' time - the only way Jesus could've known the whole OT is if God's with Him) & the Apostles couldnt remember & write whats in the NT unless Jesus made them remember His purpose (Lk 24:25-27,45). Only an incredibly Intelligent Being could make it happen.

But God outsmarted man - the Bible is the only 1 that cant be properly understood without Jesus (Jn 14:6; II Cor 3:14 - If the Jewish people cant pierce the veil over the OT without Jesus then for sure all gentiles cant). Thats why theres many interpretations & many thinking its fairytales.

Whoever seeks Jesus with all his heart & soul will find our real God & His Kingdom (u shall know the truth & itll set u free). But, why should God want u 2 live with Him forever if u dont want 2 know Him (reason 4 free will - Jn 1:12-13)?

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Answer 9

As already revealed by Pirate AM and others, you're quote mining, and this one has been used before.

I can understand how someone with little aptitude for science would believe that these quotes might actually mean something; in fact they do not. Science is not about quotes, it's about data. Instead of giving us bogus quotes that seem to cast doubt on evolution, give us some empirical evidence - I double-dog dare you!

I can also see how someone who believes in an inerrant, literal interpretation of their favorite version of the Bible would lie to support their beliefs. That's fine, do as you like, but now we ALL know that you are a liar and have lost all credibility.  

Answer 10

Evolution is fact. Scientist don't even debate it because it is fact. I won't debate it because it's fact. "They" didn't debate it because it's fact.

Answer 11

It's patently obvious that you got this information from a Christian creationist website, and you conveniently do not include the full text of Patterson's letter to creationist guru Luther Sunderland. Google www.talkorigins.org/faqs so that you can read up on what Patterson REALLY said (and it's NOT an endorsement of the creationist delusion that you're all wrapped up in.) In other words, get the FULL TEXT instead of cherry-picking, which deluded Christians like you chronically persist on doing.

There is NO evidence for creationism nor its absurd "intelligent design" cousin because there is zero real science behind them. The theory of evolution, oh willfully ignorant one, is universally accepted by the legitimate scientific world community. All you have is a group of religious scammers intent on maintaining and controlling the mindless sheep by linking the OT Bible with "scientific facts," lest they lose all the money they've made through tithes, donations, and various other schemes to extract the herd's hard-earned money.

Someone once said that creationism is "pseudo-scientific fiddle faddle." Truer words were never spoken. Stay in the abyss of your religious delusion as long as you want. It's your mind that's being wasted, not mine. My sympathies.

Answer 12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Answer 13

Try reading this by Steven Dutch.

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/Self...

Then try to sound like less of an idiot next time.

Answer 14

Below are a number of creditable sites with evidence of evolution.  I'm quite surprised that you personally talked to the geology staff and to members of the "Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago".

Given the track record of creationist misquoting scientist to the point of out-right lying, I would want to see a creditable link to your claims.

Edit:

Just to illustrate my point about dishonesty in creationist quotes:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/patterso...

Answer 15

It has been proven. That is why it is called a theory. A theory in the context of science is proven and supported by observable facts.

Answer 16

This is a video of the Moro Reflex. Lookit! It's got a cute baby! SO CUTE. LOOK.

The doctor is showing how to test for it by making the baby feel like it's about to fall. The baby feels itself starting to drop and reaches out and grabs, then brings its arms in to its chest. Babies born without the reflex have some sort of nerve damage. It also disappears by 6 months.

This reflex is useless for human babies. Absolutely useless. Other reflexes in adults, like the knee reflex, or the reflexes that pull your hand back when you've touched something hot, are useful.

But since it's an evolutionary hangover from when babies rode on their mother's backs and their mother had a lot of fur to grab, it did, at one point, have a purpose.

This is the simplest proof I've got, since I know it'll be hard to get you out from under that mountain of denial.

Answer 17

You're going to pick an answer that agrees with your beliefs regardless of what anything anyone might say so why would anyone bother?

Microevolution is fact that even creationists accept. Agreed, macroevolution simply cannot be proved in the way you would demand, but only because of the amount of time involved. You can't stand there and watch it happen. Creationists like to say about evolution, "were you there?" but I have to ask about the creation story, "were you there?"  Since no one was there regardless of what actually happened and there is more evidence for evoultion than there is for creationism, science can at least be called a faith in that for which there is actual concrete and tangible evidence. Worthiness of faith has to be earned. The best evidence that Christianity has is heresay, faith which by it's own bragging, is a faith that is unprovable.

Answer 18

Dominant scientific models can be and have been overturned before, but only because their opponents have provided a plausible alternative that explained known facts better than the old one. There is a mountain of evidence for which the dominant model of evolution is the only plausible explanation. There is no plausible alternative theory that can do the same explanatory work, and has not been for the past 150 years. Your desperate bellyaching about the lack of "watertight" evidence and "proof" (whatever those things mean in your mind) isn't going to change that.

Answer 19

Believe it or not, there's A LOT more proof of evolution than there is of God.

So you people have a Bible. That anyone could have written, for any purpose.

And scientists have found fossils, ancient artifacts, old cities, DNA samples, and so much more.

You do the math.

Answer 20

Can you tell me at least one thing proves there is a god?  No.

Evolution is a fact.  Get over it.

Answer 21

Your evidence and quotes are almost thirty years old. Please take them back to 1981 and argue then.

Answer 22

I know that it isn't science.

Answer 23

Nonsense.  Science can not be reduced to a sound-bite, no matter how much the dummies of the world need it for their low-syllable-count tabloids.  Start studying science earnestly, humbly and for years before you adopt nonsensical views.  Science is not a democracy nor should the principles of science ever be put to a vote, because most voters are idiots.

Answer 24

There is a mountain of proof...try observing bacteria and how they evolve/adapt to anti-bacterials; try observing how the finches in the Galapagos islands evolve rapidly over only 20 years' time; try taking a science course and actually learning.

Answer 25

Quit quote mining and read the rest of what Dr. Patterson had to offer. Your 'lack of evidence' merely betrays your lack of knowledge.

Answer 26

You could save yourself from looking like an idiot, if you just got a bit of an education.  Not only is evolution a valid explanation for the origin of species, but there are other more recent discoveries that also explain the emergence of new species. (See chromosome fusion.)  

One thing that is indisputably true?  Try DNA, the actual mechanism that makes both inheritance and evolution actually work.  With modern DNA sequencing technology, we can actually watch evolution in action, nucleotide by nucleotide.  

You're in so far over your head, you don't even realize you are drowning -- and you're being dragged down by that mountain of misinformation you "believe in."  I'd feel sorry for you, if you weren't so damned dangerous to civilization.