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How do you feel about your prophet Mohammed marrying his wife ayesha when she was 6 but consummating the marriage when she was 9. Im not muslim. I find it disturbing no offense to anyones beliefs. Just want your thoughts. And would you marry off your daughters that young. Please no rude or mean answers. I just really want to know. Thanks.

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  1. It's no wonder you find it weird because you're not a Muslim, and we don't blame you. :)

    Let me just briefly explain. See, the Prophet was sent because he was here to guide the whole Ummah. The Ummah represents all the Muslims after the Prophet. We Muslims are all his Ummah, that's why we follow his teachings and not any other Prophet's, because he was sent for us. So was the Qur'an.

    Every single thing the Prophet did should be noticed because it represents what is halal and haraam and much more. The Prophet had to do a lot of things because he knew people learnt from him and he had to represent Islam. How do you think we know we have to fast in Ramadan? Because the Prophet did it. How do we know we should wake up for Tahajjud? Because the Prophet did it.

    The Prophet's first marriage was to Khadijah (R.A.). Sh was 40, he was 23. The Prophet did it to show that in Islam you can. It's not haraam to marry someone who's 40 when you're younger.

    He did the same for Aisha.

    No, if I had any daughters, I wouldn't marry them off at such a young age. But people do. A lot of them do, so that they don't have to take care of the daughters and also because then they aren't their problem anymore.

    Maybe you don't see it where you live, or anywhere you know, and maybe you've never heard of it, but it does happen.

    If the Prophet didn't do it, people would have doubts about it and this would cause a lot of problems.

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    Mate, didn't want 'weird' to sound offensive to you. Wrong choice of words. Wasn't what I meant.

    That was just an example, btw. Don't relate it directly.

    Those were my thoughts. We're not here for an argument, like you said in your question, you just want our thoughts, and you want to know. I let you know. There.


  2. Regardless of what her actual age was when getting married, we all agree that she was young.  By her being so much younger than the Prophet Muhammad (saw) and being married to him, allowed her to have a different view than other women of the time.  She led a very intimate (not talking sexually) life with the Prophet.  She was able to learn so much about Islam from him.  She is also known to have an excellent memory and is the narrator of many hadith.  She lived for many years after the Prophet Muhammad died.  This was VERY important for the Muslim community.  They had someone around for a long time who actually lived with the Prophet and could be a leader for the women.

  3. its true that, the he first time mohammed married almost double his age older woman ( a mother figure)

    muslims say around age 40, mohammed attained prohpesy...

    after attaining prophesy only.. mohammed married that 6yrs old child girl and as soon as the child girl got matured(physically) he had s*x with her

    well, i tell you..

    MORALS are always MORALS, now or 1400 yrs ago,  its not about Laws, its not about traditions, Mohammed was already a prohpet, supposed to have communication with God.. being a wise man, he shouldnt have done this, How can mohammed marry & have s*x with that Tiny girl? the girl though matured physically, she was still  a child, she wasnt matured mentally at all

    (muslims support marrying the child girl by..

    Mohammed needed a wife to see his house hold things & to look after his children

    lmao, how can this 6 or 9 yr old girl look after his children & do house hold works? (child-labour?)

    and some say, he didnt have s*x at 9 may be later, they simply "lived" together

    well, if this was the case, why they started immidiately after her v****a got broadened? why not immidiatelly after marriage when she was at 6)

    and to SUPPORT women, he need not to MARRY every WIDOW, he can protect those women by  simply Giving Maintanance Money & Ordering other Men around.. not to Harrass them Physically

    but this WISE Man.. wants s*x s*x.. Mohammed Lured.. someone else's Wives!

    its a bitter truth, mohammed was a characterless, woman-phycho

    Mohammed was supposed to eradicate bad systems, but he simply followed the tradition, Married TOO Many Women that he can shake his STICK at, this clearly states, he wasnt a prohpet, he was a "FAKE"

  4. Its the way it happened; He was following gods rules; Not his fault; They didnt have those laws back then; Dont make him pay the price now for something tht didnt even exist then =D


  5. Qur'aan Ch : 3 verse 186. You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in your personal selves, and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allâh; but if you persevere patiently, and become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - See V.2:2) then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs (and that is from the great matters which you must hold on with all your efforts).

    Ch : 2 verse  2

    This is the Book (the Qur'ân), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqûn [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allâh much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allâh much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].

    The Book of Faith (Kitab Al-Iman) [001:0078] It is narrated on the authority of Abu Shuraih al-Khuzai' that the Prophet (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) observed: He who believes in Allah and the Last Day should do good to his neighbour and he who believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to the guest and he who believes in Allah and the Last Day should either Speak good or better remain silent.


  6. hi


  7. Many of replies included that it was not prohibitive to marry such a young girl in those times. I feel it is not the question of whether the laws were present or not but it is a question of right or wrong. What is right now should also be right then and vice versa. In my opinion if prophet really wanted to save that girl chid from abject poverty he could have adopted her as his daughter. No law in world can stop a person from doing a benevolent work in  favour of a person if that person gives his self consent.

    Also, if you have wealth and wisdom enough to give other weak or poor person protection then it is not necessary to marry that person.

    The only anomaly I find in your question or in the Hadith which many have mentioned is about the age of Ayesha. If she really was a grown up girl then it was not wrong on Prophet's part , but still I feel a girl should never be put in a situation wherein she has to choose a person as her husband without being in love to  that person or the only way to come out of poverty or if her father wishes to be inspite of the fact that a 6 year old girl can't decide for herself what is right or what is wrong for her and she puts entire faith upon her parents.

    I don't know whether the girl was orphan or his father was physically disabled, but it was immoral  on his father's part that he consented of marrying her daughter to a person who is much older to her. And he should have  gained enough strength by the grace of Allah, God or Bhagwan to feed her family with enough food so as not to let them live in hunger or poverty.

    I am sorry if my answer was unwarranted .

    I am male and a Hindu.

  8. Most modern scholars of  today would say that Ayesha was about the age of 15 when marriage was consummated. Professor Jamal Badawi (Of St Marys University) has written a paper on this very subject. The ages you are referring too are from a week hadith.  If you find this disturbing then I suggest you pick up your bible and read it cover to cover. You will be shocked what you find in there.  

  9. That was long time ago, it was normal long time ago but now it's not recommended..

    End of the story!

    Edit: No nothing changed! it's still Halal! but if a Halal does not go a long with the circumstances then it's not recommended to do it

  10. Beliefs or not ,isn`t that pedophilia.

  11. To me it's not about how old or young the girl is....2nd, 3rd, and 4th marriages are ridiculous...your obviously unappy with the woman your with if you get married again and again, so why don't you just stay single, you know?Stop torturing them you b******s. I hate this f'en rule.

    Edit: Love from Iran....I so did not mean to offend our prophet like u did...u see the times are diff..so why do people do it still?

  12. Some people say 6, some say 9, some say 16. I feel (that is what you asked, right how do we feel) that the exact age is not really known. And I feel that it was 1500 years ago on the other side of the world and things were done differently back then.

    I also feel that once the girl started her cycles, people back then considered her a full grown women. that's just how it was back then. when he married her and then years later consumated their marriage, no one in the society saw it as anything out of the ordinary because, again, that is just how it was back then.

    Life expectancy was shorter, women married really young and started having kids as soon as she hit puberty. The age of the husband must not have been an issue. No one protested.

    Aisha was the only wife he had that was born into Islam, all others were converts/reverts. Aisha was the only wife who had never been married before, all others were widowed or divorced. Aisha was still young when the Prophet died, and because the had been taught and trained in the religion by the Prophet himself, her knowledge is some of the most valued, especially about women's issues, and the haddiths connected to her are some of the most authentic and well known. and among these many many haddiths, she often spoke about her relationship and marriage, and she never mentioned any cruelty or abuse, she was happy and proud to be married to him. If she herself had no problem, why should we?

    No, I would not marry my daughters that young, There will never again be such a unique situation, there will never be another Prophet to marry a young girl to to learn the religion and pass it own to other women, as was the case with Aisha. Besides that, society has changed since that time, there is absolutely no need for an older man to marry a girl in today's world.

    That is how I feel. How do you feel about Lot's two daughters getting him drunk so they could get pregnant by him? How do you feel about one of David's sons raping his own sister?  

  13. Back then they didn't have rules against that. It was cultural, not religious. Back then many people married off their children at such a young age, so I see it purely as cultural and thats all

  14. It didn't happen. That's in the hadiths, but so is the girl's right age.

    We're talking about Ayesha bint Abu Bakr. Her elder sister was Asmaa.

    Asmaa bint Abu Bakr died in 73 AH (After Hijra) She was 100 years old and 10 years older than Ayesha.

    Anyway, 100 minus 73 makes Asmaa 27 years old at the time of Hijra, Prohet's migration. That, in turn makes Ayesha 17 at the time. Ayesha was married to Muhammad two to three years later in Medinah.

    Even more, there was no official calendar until years later, when Umar bin Al Khattab became Khalifah, so there's more room for error.

    Ayesha was 19 at LEAST when she was married.

    Edit...The hadiths mentioning her age as 6 at marriage and 9 when consummated are several and they're in Bukhari...so what's all this weak business? We wouldn't even have to discuss this if the hadiths were given their proper due. Treat them the same as any other spurious lies and this issue will dry up. You find no trace of this stuff in Al Qur'an. Only the ahadis and tafsirs based on them.

    According to Al Qur'an, men are forbidden from marriage to anyone without their consent, which a child cannot give.

  15. There was always a reason why our Prophet would get married. With Aisha he had a dream when she was 6 years old that Angel Jabreel(the angel that brought down the Koran to Prophet Muhammed) told him that this is his wife and it was a girl rapped in a scarf and when he opened her face it was Aisha. i dont know if you know but Aisha was the daughter of Prophet Muhammeds best friend Abu Bakr al Sadeeg. So when our Prophet told Abu Bakr about his dream Abu Bakr knew it was a sign from Allah so he let his daughter get married. she lived with the prophet from the age 6 but consummated when she was 9. back then 9 year olds were already thinking like 30 year olds. they were very intelligent and knew all about life. Like i said there was always a reason why Prophet Muhammed married one of his wives.

    http://lastisland.wordpress.com/2007/09/...

  16. The thing most people don't realize is, that in the past girls matured faster. muslims and non-muslims alike got married around that age.. so it was normal.. u have to realize that was a completely different time from now. Also Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) took great care of Ayesha.

    You have to take everything into consideration, it was a different time... And now its a rare scenario to find.

    I'm just giving u a very basic answer...u should visit a more informative site or ask someone that's more educated about the matter, like a scholar.. that way u'll get a more detailed and correct answer.

    I hope u find what u r looking for

    Best Of Luck


  17. Why we shall bother about what Muhammad did 1500 years back. He was just another nomade.

    What we shall be rueing is the fact that he happened to lay his hands on Torah and Bible. He used his own imagination to plagiarise them and dished out as his own creation as Quran. His creation Islam, is proving curse on mankind. We shall be discussing those things.

  18. I don't understand why you don't understand that back then things were different. People did a lot of different things. And he married women to protect them which is the nicest thing you could do for somebody! And it's still in the Quran because the Quran hasn't changed ever since then. Nobody's gonna change it.

  19. Karen Armstong in her book called Muhammad: prophet of our time

    "There was no impropriety in Muhammad's betrol to Aisha. Marriages conducted in absentia to seal alliance were often contracted at this time...

    This practice continued in Europe well into the early modern period. There was no question of consummating the marriage until Aisha reached puberty."

    Page 105

    The rest of my answer is

    This question is asked by many non-Muslims and is used to hurt Muslims who do not understand this, This was an answer that I had prepared for a Christian.

    He married Aisha in contract initially and then she lived with him three years later. There are varying reports about her age when she married him some sources say 6,9,12,15 and the Shia say 18. According to Sheikh Hamza Yusuf all the narrations about her age at the time of marriage are singular narrations therefore there isn't one that stands out and we can affirm that narration.

    In any case when she married him, she was fully formed woman, in other words capable of child birth. This was perfectly normal in that time, as it was the practice of the Arabs at that time to marry women at 12, when they had reached puberty and they did not live together until three years after that.

    In most of the books, scholars generally say the age was twelve and then she went to live with him when she was fifteen, after the emigration to Medina.

    This was a normal marriage in this time because another woman Khawla said why don't you marry Aisha, this confirms it as a practice of the people.

    Don’t forget that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had a dream where the angel Jibril was carrying a person and he asked who is was, the angel said it is your wife, the cloth was uncovered and it was Aisha, this happened three times. She was married to him before the Hijra to Medina and did not live with him until after which was some three years.

    "But do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? Not thus are men's lives to be judged. And you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection." - - Dr Annie Besant (Dr Annie Besant in 'The Life and Teachings of Mohammad,' Madras, 1932)

    A noted British author has observed: "No great religious leader has been so maligned as Prophet Mohammed. Attacked in the past as a heretic, an impostor, or a sensualist, it is still possible to find him referred to as "the false prophet." A modern German writer accuses Prophet Mohammed of sensuality, surrounding himself with young women. This man was not married until he was twenty-five years of age, then he and his wife lived in happiness and fidelity for twenty-four years, until her death when he was fourty-nine. Only between the age of fifty and his death at sixty-two did Prophet Mohammed take other wives, only one of whom was a virgin, and most of them were taken for dynastic and political reasons. Certainly the Prophet's record was better than the head of the Church of England, Henry VIII." Geoffrey Parrinder, Mysticism in the World's Religions (New York: Oxford University Press, 1976, pg. 121)

    Ayesha(ra) was engaged to someone else before she got engaged to Muhammad(saw):

    Lady Ayesha(ra) was already engaged to a non-Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Ayesha(ra)'s engagement to Jober because she was physically mature enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober.

    In the Jewish Torah it states than any father who hasn’t married his daughter by the age of twelve, has dishonoured her. Henry the 8th wed Anne Boleyn aged twelve.

    Some Hindis marry when their brides are aged twelve, the Jewish tradition has about what age a woman should be when she marries, some say 6 others say 9 and 12.

    Mary mother of Jesus according to Christain sources was 12 when she gave birth to Jesus (upon them peace).

    There are several reasons for this marriage, Aisha (may God be pleased with her) reported the second most narrations about him (over two thousand), she was the first female scholar and she taught hundreds if not thousands of students.

    She corrected other companions when they made mistakes, she was a living authority of religious knowledge in her time. Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) was also married to Safiyyah, the daughter of Huyayy ibn Akhtab, the leader of a Jewish tribe in Arabia. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)married her when she was 16 years old and guess what? He was her third husband; she was married twice before hi

  20. it is true that our prophet mohammad married ayesha very younge but he also married other women not for pleasure but to protect them because they were poor had no where to go and gave them shelter

  21. I don't know what was going on in those days. May be they did not have any marriage rules. There is even an example in Hindus that Sri. Ramakrishana paramahamsa married Sharada Devi when she was just 5 years old. Sri. Ramakrishana paramahamsa was 23 then. All that happened in good old days.. But as the time is changed, it is no more possible that it can repeat.

  22. I think you need a straight answer.  The age of Aisha was not given in the quran, but was given in the ahadith (the sunnah - sayings and doing of Muhammad).  These are considered second only to the quran as instructions for islamic life.  Muslims are suppose to follow Muhammad's example.  From the ahadith they get details that are not given in the quran.

    Ok, that said Sahih Bukhari is considered the most trusted ahadith.  Sahih means authentic.  The next one is Sahih Muslim.  Here are some verses about Aisha:

    Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311:

    'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

    Sahih Muslim Book 031, Number 5981:

    'A'isha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), whereas Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent them to her.

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:

    Narrated Aisha:

    The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:

    Narrated 'Aisha:

    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:

    Narrated 'Ursa:

    The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

    There are more of these.  There are other sources.  It's interesting that Muslims will use the ahadith when it suits them.  They get the instructions for ablution and praying (just a couple of examples) from these, but on controversial subjects they call them "weak".  You decide.  


  23. Actually there's 2 hadith on her age. One saying she was 9 and the other she was a teen. The one saying she was 9 is actually a really weak hadith compared to the other one, but people (islamaphobics) prefer to use that one.  And even if she was that wouldn't have been unusual for the time. Women couldn't take care of themselves very well because of the rough times and the society. So they were expected to marry as soon as puberty. People also didn't live long then you wanted your children to start a family so that when you got old there would be some to take care of you.

  24. Mohammad was a pedophile, and muslims do exactly what their pedophile prophet told them by marrying little girls

  25. she wasn't 9...she was in her teens. The 9 yr old claim comes from a weak source and only one source. For a hadith to be valid, it must have more than one authentic references.

    Sadly, emotional muslims jump on anything and defend anything thats in the hadith.....even though some of it is not true at all

    ___

    what is your religion?

  26. Aisha is not mentioned in the Quran. She is mentioned in the hadith. The Quran itself states that we should look to the Quran and only the Quran for guidance. The Quran comes directly from God, revealed through his messenger, Mohamed. All the others (hadith, sunna etc.) are human inventions and we can disregard them (6:112 You shall disregard them and their inventions).

    Anyway, about the issue of child marriage, I really don't know how old Aisha was or what really happened. I don't know what to think of it either. I would never marry off my children that young, but then again I expect them to finish college and have the beginnings of a career before they get married.  

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