Rafida and motazili--??? can someone plz explain what these are??? with sources?

Question

@Ask me- i agree with you but im learning new things on here everyday, things iv never heard of so im curious as to what they are...

Answer 1

Who are the Rafidah (the origin of the Shia)?

The first person to found this sect is ‘Abdullah son of Saba al Yahodi, a Yemeni Jew. He outwardly proclaimed to be Muslim and traveled to Madeenah during the rule of the rightly guided Khalifah Uthmaan ibn ‘Afaan, may Allah be pleased with him.

The were named ‘Rafidah” (literally meaning ‘The Rejecters’) because they rejected Zayd ibn ‘Alee after requesting him to free himself from Abu Bakr and Umar, the first and second rulers in Islam after the death of the final Messenger, may Salaat and Salaam be upon him. Upon hearing their request, he asked Allaah to have mercy on the two deceased leaders.

They said: ‘Therefore we will reject you.”

He responded: ‘Leave, for you are ‘Ar Rafidah’ – ‘the rejectors’.

Al Dhahabee, a renowned scholar and historian of the 8th Islamic century (14th Gregorian century) stated:

The Rafidah approached Zayd and said: ‘Free yourself of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar and we shall support you.’

He replied: ‘Rather I shall support them.’

They said: ‘Therefore we reject you!’

They were then known as the Rafidah.

Shaykh al Islam ibn Taymiyah mentions in Majmoo’ al Fatawa:

Imam Ahmad was asked: ‘Who are the Rafidah?’

He said: ‘Those who vilify Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, they rejected Zayd ibn ‘Alee due to their hatred of the two when he showed support for them, so whoever shows hatred of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar is from the Rafidah. It is also said that they were named ‘Rafidah’ due to their rejection of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar.’

Shaykh al Islam said: ‘The origin of the Rafidah are hypocrites, it was ‘Abdullah ibn Saba the hypocrite who innovated this sect, he then practiced extremism towards ‘Alee ibn Abee Taalib by stating that he was the only rightful leader of the Muslims among other things.’

Shaykh al Islam mentioned elsewhere: The founder of the Rafidah is none other than ‘Abullah ibn Saba the hypocrite, he outwardly proclaimed to be Muslim while concealing his Jewish faith, his intention was to corrupt the religion of Islam just as Bolis the Christian did with Christianity, he was in reality a Jew who embraced Christianity with the intention of corrupting it.

Ibn Abee al ‘Izz states in his explanation of ‘Al ‘Aqeedah at Tahawiyah”:

The founder of the Rafidah is a hypocrite who embraced Islam with the intention of destroying it and accusing the final Messenger of Allah, may Salaat and Salaam be upon him. ‘Abdullah ibn Saba was a Jew who only proclaimed to be Muslim in order to corrupt the religion of Islam with his vile evil plots, just as Bolis did with Christianity. He outwardly practiced Islam, started ordering people with good and forbidding them from evil and eventually plotted the murder of ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Afaan and the turmoil that was caused due to it. He then traveled to Kufah and practiced extremism towards ‘Alee ibn Abi Talib and showed support for him in order to further his personal agenda. When ‘Alee was informed of this he ordered his execution, but he managed to escape to Qarqays, his biography is well known in Islamic history.

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the 2nd link of the Mutazila

Answer 2

@asker, be careful what u can learn hear

either u learn to hate certain people, or u can learn to make peace and unity

@Noor: do u have any respect for Allah's favourite month?

why do you have to feed the asker lies and fitna?

Answer 3

Rafdis is name given by Sunni extremist to Shias. Motazalites were rationalist in times of Abbasid dynasty. These were supported by Mamoon ur Rasheed the fifth Abbasids Caliph. They were greatly inspired by Greek philosophers. They were responsible for torturing imam ahmed Hanbal who refused to concurr with them that Quran is to perish one the day of judgement. His arguement was its the word of God and it has been revealed to remain safe in the Heaven tablet (loh - e - mahfooz)

Answer 4

well, I think Rafida is the name given by the Saudi extremist Sona to the Shia'a. Motazili is another group of muslims. Hey man don't waste your time with such subjects. we are all muslims and we believe in one God and the same Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).