Ramadan.What is meant by a Morden Muslim?

Question

How are they diff and why are they not accepted as true Muslims?

Answer 1

Morden?

lol.. Modern..

Modern; We know to much; Seen too much; We want more; We forget this and that for our own selfishness.

Answer 2

Modern muslim means that the person is inteligent and understands that Islam is not real and that living by a 1600 y/o book is not the way forward. On the other hand they do not wish to offend their family and cultural ways.

They are torn between two world: rational thought and islam/other religion!

Point is: morals and attitudes towards various subjects evolve with time. Moderate muslims understand this and accept that the quaran is old and therefore outdated in the year 2008.

Other muslims don't accept this and believe that life was better 1600 years ago??? They hinder progress.

Answer 3

Do you mean Modern? If so then there is no such thing. Its what lazy people call themselves who do not want to follow all the teachings of Islam. There is only one type of Muslim and that is a Muslim.

I never heard the Prophet (PBUH) referring to himself as a "Modern Muslim" Why not? The time he was living that was the Modern time for him. So why did he not say I am a modern Muslim? Because it does not exist.

People use it as an excuse to be week in there faith.

Answer 4

ok there is no modern Islam!

Muslims follow the same religion ever since prophet Mohammed's "peace be upon him" days!

now extreme Muslims existed ever since prophets days, there is this story that 3 Muslims went to see the prophet to ask him about what he does to get closer to god and his ways of worship, however they didn't find him so they asked a close friend of his and they seemed to think that what the prophet does is not enough!

so one of them said, i will never marry and will spend my days and nights worshiping, the second man said, i wont sleep at night and will keep praying all night long, the third man said i will fast everyday of my life!

and when the prophet heard that he was upset and he talked to the Muslims and said, i fear god more than any1 else of earth and i do my best to worship him as he truly deserves, and yet, i marry women, eat on some days and pray and sleep, and whoever does otherwise is not among my people!

and prophet Mohamed "peace be upon him" advised Muslims to worship and obey the one and only god, but to also enjoy their lives and do their best in both,,

so extreme Muslims aren't right, and there is no such thing as modern Muslims!

terrorists are a whole other topic!

Answer 5

Basically they accept and reject parts of Islam to suit their needs and wants.

Answer 6

Is that Morden, London, UK or Morden, Manitoba, Canada?

Answer 7

Modern Muslims... They have all sorts of cool gadgets.  All the latest cell phones, computers and plasma TVs.  Wow.

Answer 8

modern muslim - forgets prayers yr round then fasts during ramadan

sleeps around, drinks, smokes, parties

but at the end of the day claims they are muslim

they are not true muslims

there is a difference between a Muslim and Mu'miin

Answer 9

Muslims r Muslims the ones who believe in Allah and Mohammed  and Quran and fellow the islam roles

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Answer 10

In this day and age we as believer of Islam have several ignorant heretics who go around preaching that the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad is invalid, and basically worthless.

These people preach that only the Quran must be sought after regarding rulings and how to live our lives, that the hadiths where the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad is to be found are not to be sought after or used, that they are all mere fabrications and so on.

Our modern day heretics who follow this doctrine are known as the ?Quranis', which basically means Quran only; hence they reject every single hadith.

Another group are those who call themselves as Moderate Muslims[Modern Muslim], the only difference between them and the Quranis is that they unlike the Quranis do not always dispute the validity of the hadiths, rather they do affirm that hadiths are authentic and reliable,

However so they say hadiths and what is to be found in the hadiths are out-dated in our present day age and must not be consulted for advice, basically their approach is to ignore the hadiths and throw it away and rather we should go and consult secular western rules of law.

Both these groups are worst than each other, both of them have no basis in their doctrine, and both of them contradict what Allah has told us in the Quran.

Let us now consult the clear verses from the Quran which affirm the validity and importance of the hadiths, here is the first piece of evidence:

"O you who believe! Obey Allâh and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allâh and His Messenger (SAW), if you believe in Allâh and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination." [04 : 59]

As you can see here, Allah commands us to obey the prophet Muhammad; the verse makes it very clear that the 2nd highest authority is that of the prophet Muhammad, basically his Sunnah! Notice the verse says if we have any problems or differences we should first refer to Allah, meaning the Noble Quran, and then the verse also says we should also refer to the prophet Muhammad, which basically means the Sunnah.

And now I ask where do we find the Sunnah? We find it in the hadiths! But the Quranis say the hadiths are false, which obviously contradicts this verse, and which shows that they do not completely obey the Quran as they claim to, had they obeyed the Quran they would then be following the hadiths as well.

Answer 11

So, reject hadiths for insults they contain against the Messenger and the Sahaba and its equivalent to rejecting sunnah?

The point is, (and is never answered) that the hadiths do not contain the sunnah. What they do contain is every complaint against Islam.

Drop all the baby marriages and branded eyes and chopped off limbs that the Prophet could never have done, and who would refuse you?

Misrepresenting the Qur'an is not a reasonable response. Its a programmed one. The Sunnah is not in the hadiths, unless you take these crimes accorded to Muhammad and his companions to be true.

I know about the Qur'anites and others who put their own version of hadiths over the existing ones and I say these same things to them.

This isn't a matter of impulse or personal preference. You telling me that if I don't accept these horrible stories as true, I'm not a muslim! I'm lazy! A heretic of whatever stripe!

As it is, if I'm a heretic for being disgusted with that evil garbage, I embrace it with relief and thank God to get loose from you.

Its an old trick to discredit someone by just calling them Heretic or Kafr.