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Question

Why do you differentiate between Sunnis and Shias despite our need for unity?

Why do you call them the Rafidah (Rejecters)?

The Shia declare both Shahadas, they pray, make adhaan and make the pilgrimage, so how can we label them as Kaafirs?

Isn't it more imperative for us to fight Jews instead of fighting those who testify to ‘there is no God but Allah”?

Answer 1

because Shias do not meet the "criteria" of "muslims" defined by,bukhary,muslim,tamiyah,trimdhi,and other demented scholars..

since their demented scholars declared them kafirs so would sunnis do,regardless of What Glorious Quran Says.they will always uphold baseless hadithbooks

Answer 2

THANK YOU for saying that.. May Allah be pleased with you Muhyi =)

Answer 3

brother why would u want to fight jews?

the jewish shop owner down the street did nothing to u, why fight jews in general, there is a difference between jews and zionists, we need to kill off zionism NOT judaism, they arepeople of the book and we have to be tolerant of them

anyways i am technically sunni but i denounced my sect name and i am Just Muslim now, i dont bother with sectarian c**p or anything and to me a muslim is a muslim, i wish more of us would just shutup and put our differences aside and unite

we are acting like 5 yr old kids figting over legos

like forreal, none of us has the authority to say who is going to h**l and who is right and who is wrong, we cant judge that only Allah swt can, so what we need to do is stop actng like we can do His job for him and just let our shiaa and sunni brothers and sisters do whatever, we need to focus on ourselves because none of us is perfect, look at ur own faults before u pick at the faults of others

Answer 4

those who curse the companions including the ten missionaries of Jannah, are they still called believers? you know more than me,,

Allah knows

Answer 5

The youth of today continue to desire to “unite” with anyone who claims that they are muslim regardless of their beliefs and methodologies. They can be Rawaafidh Shee’ah who curse the best of mankind after the Prophets and Messengers, the Sahaabah radhiallaahu anhum

They’ll “unite” with a person who curses Aboo Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Aa’ishah radhiallaahu anhum ajma’een. Or a person who commits shirk with Allaah and claims their Imaam has the knowledge of the Unseen. Or a person who views the blood of the Muslims as Halaal. Until the end of it.

This dangerous methodology is against the Sunnah and is not the methodology of the People of Truth.

They mix up the issues of “not dividing and differing” and how unity is accomplished.

Allaah says in Soorah Aal-‘Imraan, verse 105:

وَلاَ تَكُونُواْ كَالَّذِينَ تَفَرَّقُواْ وَاخْتَلَفُواْ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَهُمُ الْبَيِّنَـتُ وأولئك لهم عذاب عظيم

((And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them, and for them is a great punishment))

Al-Muznee (رحمه الله) said,

فذم الله الاختلاف، وأمر عنده بالرجوع إلى الكتاب والسنة، فلو كان الاختلاف من دينه ما ذمه، ولو كان التنازع من حكمه ما أمرهم بالرجوع عنده إلى الكتاب والسنة

((And Allaah dispraised differing, and ordered to return to the Book and the Sunnah, so if differing was from the Deen then he would not have dispraised it, and if differing was from the legislation then He would not have ordered them to return back to the Book and the Sunnah)) (Jaami’ Bayaan al-‘Ilm wa Fadhlihi (2/910))

This is why Ameer al-Mu’mineen fil Hadeeth, Aboo Abdillaah Muhammad bin Ismaa’eel al-Bukhaaree recorded the chapter in his Saheeh:

باب كراهية الاختلاف

((The repugnance of differing))

And Aboo Daawood as-Sijistaanee reported in his Sunan (No.644) that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said:

لا تختلفوا فتختلف قلوبكم

((Do not differ for your hearts will differ))

Ibn Qutaybah mentioned in his Ta’weel Mukhtalif al-Hadeeth (22) that Ibn Mas’ood (رضي الله عنه) said:

الخلاف شر

((Differing is evil))

ألا و إن من قبلكم من أهل الكتاب افترقوا على ثنتين و سبعين ملة ، و إن هذه الملة ستفترق على ثلاثِ و سبعين : ثنتان و سبعون في النار ، وواحدة في الجنة، و هي الجماعة

((Indeed the people who came before you from the People of the Book split into 72 sects, and indeed this nation will split up into 73 sects: 72 in the fire and one in Jannah, and they are the Jamaa’ah)) (This was reported by Imaam Ahmad and others and al-Haafidh graded it as Hasan)

In another narration there occurs:

كلهم في النار إلا مله واحدة : ما أنا عليه و أصحابي

((All of them in the fire except one way: What I and my Companions are upon)) (And this was narrated by at-Tirmidhee and is graded as Hasan by al-Albaanee in his Saheeh al-Jaami’ 5219)

‘Amro bin Maymoon said to ‘Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood (رضي الله عنه):

وكيف لنا بالجماعة؟

((So how are we with the Jamaa’ah?))

So Ibn Mas’ood replied to ‘Amro:

يا عمرو بن ميمون إنَّ جمهور الجماعة هي التي تفارق الجماعة، إنما الجماعة ما وافق طاعة الله وإن كنت وحدك

((O ‘Amro bin Maymoon, the majority of the Jamaa’ah are those who differ with the Jamaa’ah, indeed the Jamaa’ah are those who are firm upon the obedience of Allaah even if you are by yourself)) (Reported by al-Laalikaa’ee in his Sharh Usool al-I’tiqaad (160) and by Ibn ‘Asaakir in his Taareekh Dimashq (2/322/13))

But what about the deviant groups and those who split off from the Qur’aan and Sunnah upon the understanding of the Salaf as Saalih?

Contemplate over this narration of our Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) which is reported by Imaam al-Bukhaaree in his Saheeh Imaam Muslim in his Saheeh (2/Number 1370):

فمن أحدث فيها حدثا أو آوى محدثا فعليه لعنة الله والملائكة والناس أجمعين

((Whoever innovates or accommodates an innovator then upon him is the curse of Allaah, His Angels and the whole of mankind.))

Amazing how the youth keep pushing to unite with the Innovators but Sufyaan bin ‘Uyaynah said to a man:

مِنْ أَيْنَ جِئْتَ قَالَ: مِنْ جَنَازَةِ فُلَانِ بْنِ فُلَانٍ قَالَ: لَا حَدَّثْتُكَ بِحَدِيثٍ اِسْتَغْفِرْ اَللَّهَ وَلَا تَعُدْ, نَظَرْتُ إِلَى رَجُلٍ يُبْغِضُ أَصْحَابَ رَسُولِ اَللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَاتَّبَعْتُ جِنَازَتَهُ.

((”From where did you come?” He said: “From the funeral of so-and-so son of so-and-so” He said: “I will not narrate to you with Hadeeth, I seek forgiveness of Allaah! You looked to a man who hated the companions of the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and you then followed his funeral.))

Imaam al-Laalikaa’ee reported in his Sharh Usool al-I’tiqaad (139) that Ibraaheem al-Maysarah said:

ومن وقر صاحب بدعة فقد أعان على هدم الإسلام

((Who ever honors the innovator then he has aided in the destruction of Islaam))

Imaam al-Laalikaa’ee reported in his Sharh Usool al-I’tiqaad that al-Fudayl bin ‘Iyyaad said:

لا تجلس مع صاحب بدعة أحبط الله عمله وأخرج نور الإسلام من قلبه

((Do not sit with the person of innovation, Allaah has rendered his actions futile and removed the light of Islaam from his heart))

Al-Fudayl bin ‘Iyyaad also said:

أدركت خيار الناس كلهم أصحاب سنة وينهون عن أصحاب البدع

((I met the best of Mankind, all of them were people of Sunnah and they forbade sitting with the people of innovation))

Aboo Nu’aym al-Asbahaanee recorded in his Hilyatul Awliyaa (8/103) that al-Fudayl ibn ‘Iyyaad said:

أحب أن يكون بيني وبين صاحب بدعة حصن من حديد

((I would love that there be between me and a person of innovation a fortress of iron.))

Imaam Aboo ‘Uthmaan as-Saaboonee said on page 112 of his ‘Aqeedatus Salaf As-haabul Hadeeth:

مع ذلك على القول بقهر أهل البدع، وإذلالهم وإخزائهم وابعادهم واقصائهم، والتباعد منهم ومن مصاحبتهم ومعاشرتهم، والتقرب إلى الله عز وجل بمجانبتهم ومهاجرتهم

((And along with that they (the Salaf) unanimously agreed with their saying about the Ahlul Bid’ah, that they should be subdued, humiliated and disgraced, banished and driven away. That (one must) keep away from them, from those who associate with them and from those who are intimate with them. And to seek nearness to Allaah by avoiding them and fleeing from them.))

Imaam al-Awzaa’ee said:

لا تمكنوا صاحب بدعة من جدل فيورث قلوبكم من فتنته ارتياباً

((Do not give a person of innovation a chance to debate for your hearts will be affected by his fitnah as a result))

Ibn Abee Ya’laa recorded in his Tabaqaat al-Hanaabillah (1/60) that ‘Abdus Samad al-Haashimee narrated from ad-Daaruqutnee who narrated from ‘Uthmaan bin Ismaa’eel who said:

سمعت أبا داود السجستاني يقول قلت: لأبي عبد الله أحمد بن حنبل أرى رجلا من أهل السنة مع رجل من أهل البدعة أترك كلامه قال: لا أو تعلمه أن الرجل الذي رأيته معه صاحب بدعة فإن ترك كلامه فكلمه وإلا فألحقه به قال: ابن مسعود المرء بخدنه

((I heard Abaa Daawood as-Sijistaanee saying: I said to Abee ‘Abdillaah Ahmad bin Hanbal: “If I see a man from Ahlus Sunnah sitting with a man from the people of innovation, should I speak with him?” He said, “No, you should first inform him that the one whom you saw him with is a person of innovation. Either he will cease speaking to the innovator, so continue speaking to him, or if not, then consider him to be like him. Ibn Mas’ood said that a man is like his friend”))

Shaykh ul-Islaam Ibnul Qayyim said on page 60 of his Shifaa’ al-‘Aleel:

وقد كان ابن عباس شديداً على القدريّة، وكذلك الصحابة

((Ibn ‘Abbaas was harsh upon the Qadariyyah, and like that were the Sahaabah))

, it was said about Shaykh al-Islaam Abee Ismaa’eel ‘Abdullaah bin Muhammad al-Ansaaree al-Harwee (D. 481):

سيفاً مسلولاً على المتكلمين

((A Sharp sword on the people of Theological Rhetoric)) (as was reported by adh-Dhahabee in his Siyaar A’laam an-Nubalaa (18/509))

كان جذعاً في أعين المبتدعة وسيفاً على الجهميّة

((He was a thorn in the eyes of the innovators and a sword against the Jahmiyyah)) (Reported in al-‘Ibar (2/343))

It was said in his biography by adh-Dhahabee (Siyaar A’laam an-Nubalaa (18/509)):

عُرضت على السيف خـمس مرّات، لا يقال لي: ارْجع عن مذهبك، لكن اسكتْ عمن خالفك، فأقول: لا أسكت

((The sword was put to my neck five times, and it was not said to me “Leave your Madhhab” but it was said “keep silent about those who differ with you”, so I said “I will not rema

Answer 6

Muhammad (pbuh) said not to divide ourselves into groups and sects and I do not call myself Sunni or Shia. I call myself a Muslim like the prophets (please be upon them) did.

I don't know what is contained in this alternate shahada so I really can't speak on it. However, the Qur'an is a sufficient measuring stick for what Muslims should and should not declare as the truth.

As for this fighting the Jews business, we are not to fight those who do not fight us. Not all Jews are anti-Muslim. Not all Islam-haters are Jews. We are to oppose those who oppose us, nothing more and nothing less. BTW, the Jews are monotheistic and thus technically declare that there is no God but the One God. In any event, our unity is not supposed to hinge on dissent between ourselves and others. We are to be united in Islam for the pleasure of Allah (swt).

salaam

Answer 7

Haha fight Jews. Haha.

Muhyi- You make me laugh.

I taught you were one of the clever ones.

Well at least you clarified it.

Answer 8

Do you consider shias as Muslims?

IMPORTANT : Here Are Some Deviant Sects

These Sects Have Deviated From Pure Islaam The True Quraan And Sunnah The Real Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah

The Raafidah(Shias): They are the ones who go to the extremes with regard to the members of the household (Ahulul Bait). They declare the Companions that opposed them as being disbelievers or they accuse them of evil (Fisq). They divided into many sects, among which are extremists, who claim that Alee is god, and among which are other than them. Their innovation first appeared during the Khilaafah of Alee Ibn Abee Taalib when Abdullaah Ibn Saba' Said to him:" You are God." Due to this 'Alee commanded that they be set on fire. However, their leader, 'Abdullah Ibn Saba', escaped to another city.

They hold Various views on the Attributes of Allaah, so among them are those that perform tashbeeh, those who perform ta'teel and those who are in comformity (the the correct view on the Attributes of Allaah). They are called Raafidah because they rejected (rafd) Zayd Ibn 'Alee Ibn Al- Husayn Ibn 'Alee Ibn Abee Taalib, when they asked him about Abu Bakr and 'Umar (Radiya Allahu 'An Huma) and he responded saying "Rahimahullah" for both of them.

So they rejected him and distanced themselves from him. And they named themselves Shee'ah because of their claim and notion that they are taking sides (tashayu') with Ahlul Bait and they support them and that they are reclaiming their right to Imamate.

The Creed of s**+'a from Their Own Sources

Allah

1.) He has the Quality of 'Badaa'.

2.) This means he forgets.

3.) He makes mistakes.

4.) He plans but this does not take effect.

5.) He does not know who to appoint as the next message conveyor, the next Imaam.

6.) "We (shias) do not worship such a god who gives authority to rascals like Yazid, Mu'awiyyah and Uthmaan."

7.) They say "Ali says.....I am the first and I am the last. I am the manifest and I am the hidden and I am the heir of earth."

8.) Shias say that the Imaams are the face of Allaah,

9.) The eyes of Allaah among his creation.

10.) The tongue of Allaah among his creation.

References :

(1.) Usul Kafi- Babul bad'aa - Al- Kafi Vol- 1 -P283 India Ed. ( 2.) Ibid (3.) Ibid .(4.) Ibid. (5.) Ibid. (6.) Kashful Asraar - 107 - Khomeni.. (7.) Rijaal Kashsi . 138. India Print. (8.) Usul- e-Kaafi -83. (9.) Ibid. 10.) Ibid.

New Kalimah (testimony of faith)

1.) Laa ilaaha illaahu Muhammadur Rasulullaah -Alli waliyullah, Khomeni Hujjatulillaah

2.) Laa Illaaha Muhammdur - Rasulullah, Ali waliyullah wazi Rasulullah was Khalifauhu bila Faslein"

3.) - Shia 'Islaam' based on 5 pillars - Salaat, Zakaat, Fasting, Hajj, Wilaayat.

4.) - Azaan is "Ash Hadu Anna - alian Waliullah Wasu Rasulullah was Khalifatu hu bila faslrin"

References:

(1.) Wahdat Islaami - June 84 P1- monthly Iranian Goverment. Periodical. (2.) Ali Waliullah - Abdul Kareem Mushtaq. (3.) Usul- Kafi. 4.) Listen in Arafaat.

Imaamology

1.) They believe in 12 Imaams after Rasulullaah .

2.) First being Ali (R.A).

3.) Last being the 12th Imaam

4.) Who is in a Cave 'Surra - Man- Raa'.

5.) Imaams they believe are Masoom- innocent.

6.) They can make Halaal- Haraam and Haraam - Halaal .

7.) They can change Deen- Sharia.

8.) They are born of their mothers thighs.

9.) They have the knowledge of the Unseen.

10.) They say Imaams are higher in status than the Ambiyaa including our Nabi.

11.) No concession regarding Wilaayah- (absolute necessary belief).

12.) If one does not accept Imaams then one is a Kaafir.

References:

(1.) Usul -e - Kafi. (2.) Usul -e - Kafi. (3.) Usul -e - Kafi. (4.) Usul -e - Kafi. (5.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225 / Kafi - Kitaabul Hujjuah. (6.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (7.) Ibid. (8.) Ibid /Haqqul Yaqeen P126.(9.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (10.) Ibid / Al Hukumatul - Islaamiyaa - 52 Khomeni. Hayaatul Qutoob Vol 3, P10 /Ibid Vol 2. P787. Footnote. (11.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 2. P278. (12.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 1. P225.

The 12th Imaam

1.) When he comes he will bring the original Quraan.

2.) He is in hiding, in a cave.

3.) He is alive observing the world, in totallity.

4.) When he comes, he will be naked. Rasulullaah will swear Allegiance to him. (Allaah protect us).

5.) He will first dig the grave of Abu Bakr (R.A) and Umar (R.A),then hang them on a stake - for all sins of mankind.

6.) He will remove the body of Ayesha (R.A) and implement the same punished for Zina.

7.) He will then kill the Sunni Scholars.

8.) Punish the Muslim Ummuah.

9.) First kill Ahle - Sunnah, then Ulama, then Kuffar.

References:

(1.) Usul-e- Kafi. (2.) Islaamic Goverment P42/ Usul -e- Kafi P340. (3.) Hukumatal Islaamia -P52. (4.) Haqqul Yaqeen 2/227- 2/347. (5.) Haqqul Yaqeen P 361/2. (6.) Also Vol 2 P 611/ Haqqul Yaqeen - P 347/ Mullah Baqir Majlisi. (7.) Furoo Kafi - Kitaabul Raudah - P 527 also Tafseer Majmanul Bayan/ Hayaatul Qulub Vol2 P 611. (8.) Hayaatul Qulub Vol2 P 611.( 9.) Haqqul Yaqeen- Vol 2. P 527 ASlo Maj Manul Bayaan.

Qur'aan

1.) Not Completed.

2.) Has 17,000 Aayats.

3.) Our's has 6,666.

4.) Abu Bakr's opposed the text of the Quraan.

5.) Original Quraan with 12th Imaam Mahdi.

6.) Do not produce Haafiz.

7.) Do not perform Taraweeh.

8.) Quraan will be read/ learnt when 12th Imaam brings it.

9.) Ali (R.A) showd original Quraan to Sahabah(R.A) who rejected it.

10.) Passages mentioning virtures of Ali(R.A) has been purposefully deleted from the Quraan.

11.) There are 2,000 shiah traditions making many additions and subtractions in Quraan.

12.) The 'Murtaddeen'- renegrades have removed the name of Ali (R.A).

References:

(1.) Usul Kafi 1:228/ Faslul Kitaab fi Tahrif. Kitaabi Raabul Arbaa of Nuri Tibarsi approved by Khomeni in ' Al- Hukumaat -ul- Islamiyaa". (2.) Usul Kafi P671. (3.) Usul Kafi P671. (4.) Kashful Asraar P111.(5.) Usul Kafi 2-632. (6.) See Iran. (7.) See Iran. (8.) Usul Kafi - p622. (9.) Maqbool - 1067 - Usul Kafi Vol1 P228. (10.)Tafseer Ali Qummi-308 /Usul Kafi 1:416/Footnotes of Maqbool's translation 637/ Al- Ihtijaj- Tabarsi- 1-254/ Tafseer of Saafi- 1- 32/ Muqaddamah 6 , from Tafseer Saafi P32 Vol -1. (11.) Usul Kafi 1:228/ Faslul Kitaab fi Tahrif. Kitaabi Raabul Arbaa of Nuri Tabarsi.(12.) Surah Muhammad, Ayat 9, Para 26- Molvi Maqbool Dehli P1011.

Taqiyyah (essentially means to lie to hide the truth)

1.) The believe in Taqiyya.

2.) This means 'Holy Deception'.

3.) To believe in something but express/ say something else.

4.) They say 9-10th of Deen is Taqiyya.

5.) They say, he who has no Taqiyya has no deen.

6.) There is a great reward in Lying.

7.) They say the great Imams Practised 'Taqiyya'.

8.) They say Alli (R.A), Hassan (R.A), Hussain(R.A) practiced 'Taqiyya'.

9.) They say Hussein (R.A) practiced 'Taqiyya'.

10.) Perorm Jamaah salaat with Sunni's.

11.) Visit their sick .

12.) Perform their Janazah Salaat.

References:

(1.) Usul -e- Kafi. (2.) Ibid. (3.) Ibid. (4.) Ibid. (5.) Ibid. (6.) Ibid. (7.) Islaamic Goverment P35/ 133 .(8.) Ibid. (9.) Ibid. (10.) Usul -e- Kafi. (11.) Ibid.(12.) Ibid.

Sahaabah (companions)

1.) They say all Sahabah (R.A) companions except 3 left Islaam after demise of Nabi .

2.) They say Abu Bakr(R.A) Umar(R.A) and Uthmaan (R.A) robbed Ali(R.A) of his position of being Khalif.

3.) They say Umar(R.A) was a 'Original Kaafir' and 'Zindiq'-renegrade.

4.) "Abu Huraira (R.A) was one of the fuquaha, but god knows what judement he falsified for Muaw'iyya and others like him, and what damage He inflicted upon Islaam."

5.) They say Abu Huraira (R.A) used to fabricate Ahadith.

6.) They say Muawiyya (R.A) poisoined Hassan(R.A).

7.) They say Muawiya (R.A) was a tyrant opressive ruler.

8.) They say Qazi Shurray (R.A) used to issue judicial pronouncement in favour of the ruling party. He was a sinful wretch occupying position of Judge.

9.) One should dissociate with the 4 idols: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthmaan, Muawiyya and 4 women Ayesha, Hafsa, Harid, Umm-al-Hakam.

10.)One should curse the above after each prayer.

11.) Pharoah and Hamaan refer here to Abu Bakr and Umar.

References:

(1.) Anwaar - No'maan Niyyah - P245. Vol 2. Nimatullah Jafaari./ Furu Kafi, Kitaabul Raudah :15 - Mullah Muhammad bin Yaqoob Kulaini Vol 3 P115/ Usul -e-Kafi Vol 2, P 246 Rijaal Kashsi P504. (2.) Al- Ihtijaaj - Tibrasi 83, 84./Haqqul Yaqeen, P 157. (3.) Haqqul Yaqeen , 551/Kashful Asraar P119. (4.) P 143 - Islam goverment. (5.) Islaamic Goverment (6.) Al-Anwaar un Nomaniyyah - Vol 2. P88-87 Jazaari.(7.) Ibid. (8.) P81, Isl/ gov. (9.) Haqqul Yaqeen- Vol. 2 P519/ Furru Kaafi P342 Vol 3/ Jilaa - ul- Uyoom -P45 - 46/ Hayaatul Quluub P 375. (10.) Ainul Hayaa P559. (11.) Haqqul Yaqeen P342.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

munafiques are WORSE than kaafirs.

and they give a bad name to islam because of their actions and wrong beliefs.

shias disrespect the sahabas - that should be enough to make you want to distance yourself from them.

they insult those who were loved by Rasulallah (saw) and who he said we should respect..

i'd rather befriend a kaafir, because not all kaafirs are bad people - whereas if you're a shia, then you're a twisted soul and i'd rather i never talked to you.