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Rather then spend pay high premiums on car insurance to cover med,wouldnt it be better to have socialized med?

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The reason car insurance cost so much they say, is to cover injuries, then they dont pay cause they say it was not from accident, if we had national healthcare like other countries , we could spend money on healthcare rather then insurance industry that is gov lobbiest and multibillion dollar industry , that we are forced by law to pay!!!

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  1. We could pay for a Nationalized Health Care program by ending Corporate Welfare. The US government gave $92 BILLION of OUR tax dollars to various Corporations in 2006 alone. Yet Republicans claim to favor the "free market." In a "free market" a business will fail or succeed on it's OWN and doesn't need to be propped up on the backs of the US taxpayers. The US spent close to $2 TRILLION dollars on Health Care in '06 alone! Even IF Universal Health Care cost $500 Billion dollars we'd still be SAVING $1.5 TRILLION dollars!!

    PLEASE Support HR 676!!

    What Is National Health Insurance (NHI)?

    To begin with, it is NOT “Socialized Medicine”, far from it in fact.  Also, it does not mean that our medical system will be taken over by the government and run like the post office as many of our opposition friends would mistakenly have you believe.

    Basically, House Resolution (H.R.) 676, the “New Expanded Medicare” bill now in sub-committee in the House of Representatives simply creates a new and far more functional “single payer” method of paying for medical services while leaving the medical system itself completely alone and intact.  This will eliminate the hundreds of complicated and redundant payment plans currently imposed on the system by private “for profit” health insurance companies and save literally BILLIONS of dollars every year by eliminating such wasteful duplication.  This will allow your doctors offices and hospitals to function much more efficiently and serve your needs much more effectively as well.   Just imagine what a huge benefit this will be!

    Taxes: We all know that nothing of any real value is ever free, but if you think of the taxes that will be required to support national health insurance as simply a lower cost alternative to the staggering private health insurance premiums that most of us already have to pay but which will be totally eliminated under the new system, then it becomes immediately clear that this could be a really good deal after all!

    "Health care is a defining right in a democratic society."

                                                                                                                                                     Congressman Dennis Kucinich

    Check out some of the tremendous benefits that NHI will bring and see what you think:

    Every citizen of the US will be covered from birth to death.

    No more pre-existing conditions to be excluded from coverage.

    No more expensive deductibles or co-pays.

    All prescription medications will be covered.

    All dental and eye care will be included.

    Mental health and substance abuse care will be fully covered.(1)

    Long term and nursing home services will be included.

    You will always choose your own doctors and hospitals.

    Costs of coverage will be assessed on a sliding scale basis.

    Tremendously simplified system of medical administration

    Total portability – your coverage not tied to any job or location.

    Existing Medicare benefits for those over 65 will remain the same or be vastly improved in many cases.

    (1)The United States has the unhappy distinction of having the largest inmate to total population ratio of any modern country in the world.  It is estimated that a full 53% of that inmate population is being confined due to non-violent drug and addiction related issues.  The combined costs to society of maintaining such a huge prison population is staggering in so many ways and accordingly, the cost savings to society of this one enormous benefit of national health insurance alone, that all drug and addiction treatment will be covered,  is simply beyond calculation.

    "This is an issue that has no political boundaries,

    it has moral boundaries."

                                                                                                                               Elizabeth Edwards

                                                                                                                               Congressional testimony May 8th, 2008

    The real irony is that this new system will be a lot less expensive and provide much better services than the largely dysfunctional system currently in place and still leave us with the best health care system in the entire world, only with the New Medicare… it will be even better!

    Don’t be put off by all of the misleading and often inaccurate rhetoric that you so often hear about changing our system.  For example uninformed critics will ask “Do you really want your medical decisions made by some government bureaucrat in Washington DC ?”  Well, the truth is that with NHI, just about every medical decision will be made privately by you and your doctor.  But ironically, under the current system, many medical decisions about what’s best for you are now being made by some corporate bureaucrat working for a private insurance company whose main concern is making larger profits by denying your claims.  How exactly does that work out to be better for you??

    "Of all forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane."

                                                                                                                                                      Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Change is indeed often a very scary thing to most people, but when the need is so great and the proposed changes are so much better than the status quo, maybe changing to a NHI system in the USA is something that we can all think about supporting, whether you are a moderate, liberal or conservative, after giving it a lot of careful study and thought.  Please call your congressperson and let them know what you think.  They really need to hear from you on this issue.


  2. i pay as much i can afford for gas as long as we have gas to buy. rather then have socialized meds.

    it's not the cost of socialize med, it's care then would come

    with  it.

  3. we shud hav the sam benefits as our congress and senate!!

  4. Didn't you post this question already? Is this some form of lobbying?

  5. I have good experience here,if you feel interested.check it out yourself.http://car-insurance.online-tips.info/ca...

  6. I agree with you, There ought to be federal medical care coverage.  I would never pay for car insurance.  I think all insurance in a scam.  BEFORE ANY ONE WHINES, I DO NOT DRIVE.  It is probably true that if they did not have to pay medical bills it would not be so high, but then, they would surely come up with SOME reason to keep jacking it up.  I hate the Idea of insurance, the companies making money from it, and all the fools who play right into it.  Sorry, I think it is all a scam... "You pay us, and then, if you ever need help, you can just pay more, then, when all is said and done, we will re-emburse you for what WE decide is FAIR...to us..." yeah, I don't think so!  You never hear how great a persons insurance company is, except on TV.

  7. So I can pay for your medical?

  8. Quality would suffer for those who can afford insurance. Public funded health care is also an expenditure black hole, hence few countries with 1st class medical establishments have uniquely public funded systems. I'd be inclined to say that a means tested, choice rich "social insurance" systems such as that in France really does provide the best of both worlds - facilities are good & treatment quickly available for all.  

    See description: http://www.civitas.org.uk/pubs/bb2France...

  9. The reason car insurance cost so much is to cover the much greater instances of fraud.  socialized medicine would by law force you to pay for everyone Else's health care and the quality would suffer

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