Rating question...?

Question

I know you have to have a commercial license, but if you are flying aircraft for a charter company not an airline, is an ATP certificate required?

Answer 1

Wow----a couple of good posts and several bad ones. "Kissthe pilot" implies that an ATP is not required by regulation at Netjets

b/c "they operate Part 91". Well, the requirement of an ATP for Second In Command is a company requirement, but a fractional jet PIC is required to have an ATP by regulation. FAR Part 91.1053(a)(2). FAR 91 Subpart K---the fractional subpart----is closer to Part 135 than to "straight 91". The Part 135 operations in which I am involved also require an ATP for PIC. And, by the way, as of 2 years ago, about 10% to 15% of Netjets operations were Part 135 (Marquis Jet Card holders are 135), and those operations also require an ATP for PIC.

Answer 2

You only need an ATP to be the PIC for a certificated carrier.  The most common certificated carriers in the US are under part 121 and part 135.  Some charter companies, however, do require the ATP, but it's not because of the regulations.  It's either an insurance requirement, or just because they want to tell their customers that the pilot has an ATP.  For instance, Netjets requires an ATP to apply to them for a job, and they operate under part 91.  Hope that helps.

Answer 3

Under FAR's 135 you are required to hold an ATP if you are going to be operating a turbine powered aircraft as PIC carrying passengers.

And of course if a type rating is required you must have that too....SIC does not need an ATP nor a type....

When you fly 135 in piston aircraft (some exceptions) you do not need an ATP to act as PIC...this is just the basic rules...

Jonathan S

ATP-LRJET,HS-125

CFI/AGI

Answer 4

No.

Answer 5

I don't think so either, but I think it might be dependent on which FAA Reg you are flying under, for example a Part 135 carrier vs Part 121, but again I am not 100% sure. The short answer I think is also "no" but might depend on the carrier.

Answer 6

It is required to excercise P.I.C. priveleges in Aircraft that weigh in excess of 12,500 ( Ramp weight ) in passenger operations.

Answer 7

Depends on if you mean PIC or SIC.

PIC....Yes

SIC.....No

Altho' You can PIC a Helicopter with a Commercial.

Answer 8

What you describe most likely is going to fall under 14 CFR part 135 operations, as such the following applies.

Section 135.4: Applicability of rules for eligible on-demand operations.

(a) An “eligible on-demand operation” is an on-demand operation conducted under this part that meets the following requirements:

(1) Two-pilot crew. The flightcrew must consist of at least two qualified pilots employed or contracted by the certificate holder.

(2) Flight crew experience. The crewmembers must have met the applicable requirements of part 61 of this chapter and have the following experience and ratings:

(i) Total flight time for all pilots:

(A) Pilot in command—A minimum of 1,500 hours.

(B) Second in command—A minimum of 500 hours.

(ii) For multi-engine turbine-powered fixed-wing and powered-lift aircraft, the following FAA certification and ratings requirements:

(A) Pilot in command—Airline transport pilot and applicable type ratings.

(B) Second in command—Commercial pilot and instrument ratings.

(iii) For all other aircraft, the following FAA certification and rating requirements:

(A) Pilot in command—Commercial pilot and instrument ratings.

(B) Second in command—Commercial pilot and instrument ratings.

Answer 9

In most cases, yes. At minimum, you need a type rating in that class of aircraft (a Cessna Citation, for instance). It all depends on the aircraft you are flying and company certifications.