About color?

Question

I have noticed that a lot of people answer any question with a horse of color as a Paint........Paint is a breed, referring to any horse of color that has AQHA, APHA or TB breeding. Pinto is a color registry only for all other breeds, why does most people call anything with color a Paint??? Example the question about the pony

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just wondering if its lack of knowledge or...............

Answer 1

Sometimes it is a lack of knowledge and people just want to get the points for answering questiong.....    you should see some of the answers people give to questions just to get points......    however, unless you are a true horse person, you might now be aware of the variations of color vs. breed, etc.....    and this can be very confusing.....     because not all paint horses are black and white for example as you know.....    but if you show a bay horse to most people, they wouldn't believe you if you said it was a paint.....

Answer 2

I suppose it's just habit or what's common in their area.  I catch myself occasionally calling horses of that pattern "spotted horses" because I have walkers, and there is a spotted saddle horse registry, and a lot of the spotted walkers are double registered in that registry as well.  OOOOHHH, some of the paint people get downright huffy ifn ya call their horse a spotted horse.

Answer 3

With me, it's just a bad habit.  You see a tobiano horse in a pen full of horses, and when referring to it, you just naturally say "the paint".  

I very well understand the difference, but it is so common to refer to the color that way, it isn't a big deal to me.

Answer 4

Paint is a color, what are you, stupid?

Answer 5

That was my question you were refering to, and yes I do think its a lack of knowledge, but I knew what they ment.

And to be perfectly honest I refered to coloured horses as paints up until a few months ago, it was only then that I realised the difference between a paint and a pinto.

With a lack of knowledge its an easy mistake to make, I dont think we should all get worked up about it.

Answer 6

I think sometimes it's a lack of knowledge and sometimes people just aren't thinking about it and paint comes out when they meant to say pinto. I think that because I realize that as I get older, I do that more and more....then later I realize it and know that whoever I was talking to must think I'm an idiot.  It's so frustrating!

Answer 7

yes i know what you mean. Everytime i see a question that asks about a pinto coloured horse everyone referres to it being a paint. Simply people are jsut rushing to answer or have a lack of knowledge. It is also the same as palomino but not all palomino's are the breed palomino :S

but then let those people be, if they want to make a mistake they can if they want. i learnt about 5months ago the difference between a paint and pinto and learnt some of the characteristics of a paint to identify it.

Answer 8

* Pleads guilty*

I catch myself just using the term paint as a general term for all horses with pinto markings... It's just a bad habit I guess. I KNOW the difference, but for some reason still say "hey, look at that paint" if i see a tobiano out in the pasture with other horses.

Answer 9

Alot of people do  not realize that Paint is a breed, not a color, and that Pinto is a color breed. It is anoying when people walk up to saddlebreds(and any other horse with large spots) and call them paint.  But don't waste your time trying to explaine this to people they basically never pay attenion, and keep going on calling any horse/pony with spots a PAINT!

Answer 10

probably or just not paying attention

Answer 11

People either don't know or don't care.  Most people call anything with color a Paint in the U.S. and since there's often little difference in type, it's easy to assume everything colored is a Paint unless you're looking at their papers (or they're conformationally obviously not a stock type).

The pony looks like he's a mix of several, one of which could easily be Paint.

Answer 12

because they have nil knowledge and pretend they do, by saying paint as if they know c**p about breeding. some of my otherwise knowledgeable friends still argue that paint is a colour not a breed. it's under friggin breeds of horses in the encyclopedia. it's a friggin breed I own a paint and it's a breed, they can't be reg QH where as pintos can be reg a breed as well. and they can't be reg that because they are a singular breed...A BREED A BREED NOT A COLOUR

Answer 13

For me it's just become a bad habit, but really not a big deal:)  For most I think this is true and some just don't know yet.

21 yrs ago I was told that Paint was a tri color and Pinto was a double color.  I don't know much about it, but would like to learn more:)

Know there is so many, and a "breed" for color.

Answer 14

Thanks for bringing this up!  I must say, I *used* to call the color "pinto" and the breed "paint", but I fell into the bad habit of calling everything "paint" because it just seemed that everyone else around me did that.  I guess I assumed they were synonyms.

I will be the first to admit that the partioculars of color breeds and color genetics are something I very much need to learn more about!

Answer 15

This is only because it is coloured . I call any colour other than black a skewbald and if it has black ONLY patches it is called a piebald !

Answer 16

I have no idea really.

right now the whole paint/colour double registering thing seems way to confusing to wrap my poor tired head around. I'm afraid if someone says it's a paint I'll tend to believe them as I'm English and don't know any better - here coloured horses are generally called coloured horses - either skewbald or piebald. So I don't know squat about overos, tobianos or medicine hats hence I don't answer questions that require that type of knowledge.

Answer 17

for me it is a bad habbit. it is not a big deal it is just some thing i picked up

Answer 18

You are mistaken.

Paint is a color that a registry chose to use as a name.  The name was chosen because quarter horses with too much color were called paints and the registry was created to allow those horses to be registered.  However paint is still a color.  By the way this is redundant now since such quarters with the added white are allowed into the quarter horse registry then the whole purpose of the paint registry is moot.

As far as the pinto registry the reverse is true.  The Pinto is a breed of indian horse ancestry.  However the registry began letting all paints register.  But a true pinto is a breed not just a color it is much more than that.

It is not a lack of knowledge on the part of the people using the terms.  The problem is the registries' choices in names.

As I have mentioned I distinctly remember when the two registries started, long before that we had pintoes and pinto quarter horse crosses.  Like I said, this was long before either registry started.  So I know what I am talking about.

Many horse registries use the term paint to describe their horses with the tobiano, frame, and/or sabino markings.

You can also find my description of a true pinto elsewhere in one of these types of questions but here it goes again.  A pinto is a paint horse from indian decent.  I can no longer remember the tribe or tribes involved.  The horse was small in stature, most individuals between 14 and 14.2 hh.  It was similar in build to the mustang but finer boned.  It's frame not being quite as stocky.  However it was just as hardy and extremely strong for its size.  They have smallish heads but lack the huge rounded cheek bones that are found in the quarter's and other horses.  Most Pintoes in the registry, have little or no "Pinto" ancestry.  However, a few horses with some of that ancestry are still around.  Some still show the distinct characteristics of the breed.  The number I see now a days is small but I did see a stallion a few years ago, unfortunately the owners had him gelded because they were not getting enough breeding to pay his feed bill.

Answer 19

Just got my breed book out to take a look and it would appear that there is quite a lot of argument over the issue. One says that all pintos are paint horses and that it is not technically a breed. The other says that it is. Both were written around the same time. It isn't a lack of knowldege it is a lack of uniform definition.