Electric Plug-In cars?

Question

Why does it seem so many morons think electric plug-in cars will save the world when you have to plug them in to a wall which recieves power via powerplant, which most likely uses fossil fuels in the first place.

Besides, aren't powerplants overstressed enough. They keep popping up like crazy in China. I don't think using them to power cars is the solution. In a way it indirectly makes pollution worse.

What do you think is the way forward in future fuels/power for vehicles? Realistically I think our nearest option that is already here is diesel, with 60+ mpg.

Answer 1

the "go green" movement is stronger in Germany than it is here in the u.s. the more solar & wind energy plants we build the cleaner our planet will become. Germany has solar panels lining  both sides of most of their highways. we refuse to follow their lead because our power companies cry too much about the cost of converting from coal to wind or solar. it's always about the $$$. a company from the east coast recently tried to open a coal burning power plant in Waterloo, Iowa for the sole purpose of creating power here and sending that power back to their own state which had turned them down stating that their state already had too many coal burning plants. they expected us to let them poison OUR air & WE were not going to receive the power. the only people who supported their plans were the corrupt politicians. electric vehicles are NOT the problem. the problem is in how we create our electricity that we use to power the vehicles (as well as our homes). there is only 1 reason that we cannot afford to GO GREEN and that reason is $$$. the solar factories (just like everyone else) could care less about making their products affordable enough to get the job done. yes, they do care about the environment, but they care far more about PROFITS! no, they shouldn't give them away, but they could sell them for smaller profits and collect major "karma points"!  as i said... it's all about the $$$.

HAVE-A-LOVING-DAY!

Answer 2

I agree with most of the previous pro-plug-in comments.  Morons ... indeed ... be careful when characterizing many of our brightest minds as morons ... since you appear to live in a glass house ... I assume you do not consider yourself to be a moron, so I'd suggest reading about plug ins before commenting this way again. They are actually one of the ways to relieve powerplant stress. Plug in hybrids can be charged at night when rates are low and can sell electricity back to the grid the next day. Again, check for yourself.  

If we were all as smart as you, we'd probably have great solutions like u have and we would not have an energy crisis at all. It's so depressing to be a moron. Oh darn, I cut my finger on a piece of glass. Well, shucks, like ah said, it be tough bein a moron.

Answer 3

Water.......lots of people have done it...search youtube for hho gas hydrogen & oxygen...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oia4z_kpg...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pzam1wku...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqhio2kw...

Answer 4

Colin

The one EV car I currently have (have 2 vehicles that run on hydrogen also) I converted from a vw bug and is free to charge. As I live completely off the grid all my electricity comes from solar panels and 2 wind generators, which I a;sp built.

However I did charge up at Costco in Carlsbad California (I actually only drove up there to fill up) if I remember right it was around $2.00

Here’s a list of other places you can charge up, don’t know if there are any prices though.

http://www.evchargernews.com/#regions

Not sure if you’re interesting in doing it your self, but I’d be willing to walk you step by step threw the conversion. I've converted 3 of my own cars (a datsun truck, ford ban, and a vw bug) and a few for neighbors. I've also converted cars to run on hydrogen, ethanol and biodiesel, by far EV is the easiest.

If you’re interested here’s what it would entitle…

- The engine compartment is first cleaned out of any gasoline components.

- Electric components are then installed in exchange.

- A battery bank is built and incorporated.

- Existing starter and driving systems are connected.

- Turn the key, step on the gas pedal sending more energy to the electric motor, & thus more power to the drive system, which in return creates more speed, more acceleration.

- The system has normal automotive top speeds and acceleration, typical to the vehicle your modifying. If your top speed was 85 mph and your acceleration was 1 mile per min, then this will be what your left with after the conversion.

The methods are extremely simple, making the process possible for anyone, everyone, ANYWHERE.

Typical tools, hardware & supplies are used, making access to parts available for all.

Electric Conversions can be easily accomplished in ANY model vehicle, even tractors, Generators, types of machinery, etc.

Project lengths range from 1 day to 1 month.

If you’re interested I wrote a guide on it which is available at www agua-luna com

As for the second part of your questions

let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy.     I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel.  I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

    On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas. the following were actually taken out of my $5 guide available at www agua-luna com

    Chemically

    1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

    3. Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

    What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

    Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

    1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

    2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

    3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

    After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

    The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

www agua-luna com

Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

Dan Martin

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Answer 5

I believe that electric cars are a much better solution for the environment than current internal combustion vehicles. Here's why I think that.

1) Electric Power plants are point sources of polution that can be more easily monitored and regulated than tens of millions of automobiles.

2) Electric power plants are much more efficient at converting other forms of energy into usable power than piston driven engines.  Efficiencies in the neighborhood of only 20% are typical for internal combustion engines. (See sources #1 and #2 below). Electric power plants can be as much or more than double that efficiency. (See source #3 below).

3) Elimination of dependence on foreign oil is a huge benefit. The last couple of wars that the USA was in was in the middle east and I am not convinced that we would have been involved if there was no oil in the countries affected.

4) Elimination of tune-ups, oil-changes, anti-freeze/coolant, and other maintenance associated with internal combustion engines is a big benefit for the consumers.

5) In general transmission systems and other drivetrain parts can be greatly simplified if the drivetrain doesn't have to be designed around the internal combustion engine.

6) They are quiet.

7) Those individuals that are forward looking might invest in their own source of renewable energy and recharge their car at home.

8) There is a huge surplus of electric power plant capacity overnight when everyone is sleeping and not heavily using electric power. This is a great opportunity to charge an electric vehicle for the next day. Some utility companies offer special electric rates for off-peak hour electricity. (Time of day metering).

9) Not all electric power comes from fossil fuels. In the future the mix of sources of electric power may well shift toward renewable sources of energy such as wind, solar, biomass, tidal, as well as nuclear power that doesn't use burned fossil fuels.

My personal opinion is that continued single-minded focus on fossil fuels as a main source of energy is not a viable option. I believe that supplies of easily obtained oil are starting to be more and more difficult to find meaning that the emphasis on fossil fuels needs to start to shift toward other sources, where available I think that renewable energy is a best option. The environmental issues caused by coal, oil and other fossil fuels is starting to be apparent to more and more people. The impact of fossil fuels on the environment is apparent to more and more people as well. My opinion is that it is time to start shifting toward something better. Electric Vehicles are a great start to move away from a single-minded focus on fossil fuels.

Timothy D.

West Melbourne, FL

Answer 6

A coal powered plant produces less carbon emissions per kilowatt of power than the refining and burning of petrol or even diesel in an ICE (internal combustion engine).

The next step for mass power production is unfortunatley nuclear fission power plants. The major draw back of these plants is radio active waste. But this could be jettisoned into space.

When we master nuclear fussion power plants then we will be able to shut down almost all fossil fuel plants. Fussion has the advantage of no hazardous waste.

Answer 7

Electric power it's wonderful for the environment but I always believe in the power of two(one electric and the other Hydro), combine those two and you have so much power that you can run vehicle more longer and even 90mph. The idea of electric car open the door for new technology and a new world and it's better for the environment...