Gambling question part 2?

Question

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What I'm looking for is specific facts about how and when will they catch a gambling genuis. I know almost everyone is saying that blackjack is the only game to do it, but im asking hypothetically If i found another game with a completely unique system. Lets say I start with a $1,000 bankroll, they notice im doing something systematically and I end up with $5,000, will they stop me then, or will they stop me at a much higher amount, like $50,000. Also do casinos communicate about "dinosaurs" globally, even to casinos in europe? Or how about Indian casinos and other small casinos, do they communicate with each other? I wanna know real SPECIFIC detail facts, stories, or whatever concerning casinos spotting a new gambler with an incredibly unique successful strategy.

Answer 1

There are no systems. I've been making a very good living as a sports better and poker player for 18 years. Over that time I've seen people try every possible system. There is no way to beat a house game long term.

A few systems such as card counting at blackjack, dice manipulation at craps and clocking the wheel on roulette might still work at casinos that have unskilled staff but not anywhere modern. Also there might be casinos out there still using equipment old enough that you could realistically crack the RNG but again good look finding them.

As for your initial question casino staff are trained to look for statistical abnormalities. As such it has nothing to do with the amount of money won or loss. A craps game can quickly give away $50k in a few minutes and that won't even register while is a low limit blackjack  table lost $10k in half an hour it would register.

Answer 2

Specifically, try reading books from James Swain. While he writes fictional books, they are based on his experiences catching cheats of all kinds. Check out his website for more info. jamesswain.com or Google him. Sometime magazines also offer information on how casinos catch "cheaters", for example: Casino Player and Slots Player are both good sources too. Another great source is the website Howthingswork.com. Check them out too. And yes, casinos can communicate with each other via a cheater database, which has everything including photos of the perps. So it is possible that they can find you even in Europe, if they're looking. By the way, there is no real "system" that can guarantee you a win. It's based on probabilities, odds and skill levels. Remember, the house has a built-in advantage on most games and you will lose the more and longer you play.

Answer 3

Typically a person has to win over a specified dollar amount set by the individual casino they are playing in,  (the amount varies but is closer to 5000 than it is to 50000) this will trigger a review of their play,  If they are using a "system" it doesn not mean they will be instantly removed, casinos love peopel that use winn back your loss type betting systems.

If they find that you are exploiting a weakness in their games, they will probibly bar you or ask you not to play that game anymore, depending on how much you have won and if you have been seen playing other games as well.

There are ways to beat games other than blackjack, but the intricacies of doing so are not shared very openly.  

"beyond counting" has some information on weaknesses of some casino games, you must have a personal refference in order to get a copy, or pay a very high price if you happen to spot one on ebay somehwere, they can go for 500 and up

Answer 4

Ok I’ll work backwards through these posts Dr Henry has a couple of good points especially in his last paragraph, however dice setting is a no brainer and wheel clocking was shot with the advent of the star-burst wheel. Cracking an RNG means turning up with a PC of some sort if you know a casino that will let you use a PC while punting let me know.

Sandynlily if there are ways to beat any other game I would really like to know, as BJ is the only variable % game on offer in most casinos I can’t see how. “Beyond counting” has some good stuff but also some fantastic other world abilities are required. “Welcome to the layer cake”!

Kinkaid I think you need to look at news articles about the use of the cheats data base in LV I’m sure that a few years ago there was a big problem with the security firm that managed it. Yes we do communicate but not internationally, well except for a couple of organizations and then not to well. You tend to find that casinos in the same area will talk to each other that information might be passed around each casinos company.

If you have a system it won’t take long for you stand out because all the games have a built in edge as I said before it’s only BJ or if you can find one a Baccarat or Chemy De Fir table that have a variable %.

Hope this is of some use.