Is this true about mma?

Question

well i love mma and i think it is a great sport. but i often see people putting other people down for wanting to do mma. and i often see people tell other people to learn muay thai and brazilian jiu jutsu. but from what i see in the mma fights the only moves they really do are, arm bars, rear naked chokes, guitines, knee bars, kamoras, and ankle locks. and those are basic moves which anyone can learn without taking brazilian jiu jutsu, and as far as muay thai all the people i see who do muay thai in ufc basically just throw normal punches, straights, hooks, uppercuts, and and jabs, and i can learn all of those from boxing and as far as knees and elbows you dont have to have anyone teach you how to do those just throw an elbow and knee lol. so what happened to judo and wrestling and all of the other good martial arts?

Answer 1

I agree with the above post.  Some of what you do in MMA, Muay Thai and BJJ, may be easily mimicked, but without formal training you could seriously hurt yourself or the other person (if not kill them!).

No offense, but MMA, unlike BJJ and Muay Thai, typically appeals to the same rednecks and hillbillies who follow WWE/WWF/NWA etc.

MMA doesn't use all of the techniques of the above forms, rather it takes the most easy applied and effective.  This gives the impression of entertainment value and that it is easy to learn.

Almost all of the rednecks and hillbillies spend their free time risking jailtime practicing MMA moves on each other, because they tried to join an MMA gym and quit because it requires a high level of fitness and commitment, as well as injuries.

Answer 2

mma is basically what the name is its all martial arts combined into 1 sport with the moves every body has their own fighting type and style eg i use to do mma  muay thai and boxing most of my strengths were in muay thai and boxing eg. knees elbows kicks punchs etc and its not true u can just teach ur self a move eg elbow u need 2 be taught how to do it properly because u can end up killing some1 the move u do not working or injuring ur self more then ur injuring the person ur fightin if u want to fight in mma i suggest u listen carefully and train hard  

Answer 3

It takes alot of skill to pull off all those techniques you just said. Marcelo Garcia wins in submission wrestling with the rear naked choke most of the time. You could take his back lock up the choke and he could get out and choke you in under a minute. There are actually hundreds of moves going on that you don't see or understand. How do you pass a guard? What guard pass should you use? There are hundreds. Whats the first thing you do? assuming you start passed a guard and are in the mounted position how do you get an armbar? Whats the first step? Think!! Oh the person already escaped because you only know vaguely what a finished armbar looks like without all the setup to it. Go to a BJJ academy and ask to spar with an experienced person. You could spar with some that has 1 year experience and you'll get toyed with and tapped about 10times in the first few minutes.

Answer 4

That's true! It's just like football.  You don't need to put in all those years playing little league, high school and college football to be an NFL quarterback.  All they do is run around and throw the ball!  Geez, I can do that!  The moves are so basic anyone can do them!  Now why aren't the 49ers returning my calls...  

Answer 5

If any one can learn those moves you just mentioned without any formal training what so ever do me a favor and list where the thumb should be positioned in a arm bar, list for me what degree of angle a "americana ( key lock ) should actually be executed at, list for me the transitional prinicples of both of these, then list for me how easy it is to counter "the rear naked choke and how, where should you be positioned when executing a guillotine choke.

Rattle off all that you know and let's see how easy these techniques are.

Do you understand why the "body triangle" is important in combat? if so please list that as well.

Which is more important the over hook or under hook? please list that.

What's the difference between grappling and clinching? please list that.

Because I see a c**p load of wrong answers on all of these techniques when you guys ask questions in here about these types of things.

How do you execute a calf lock?

Is it better to roll the opponent onto his side when executing the key lock?

I have a ton more questions as well.  Since the tiny details of technique can be chucked out the window as you're stating here.  There's way more to the practice than merely "mimicking what you see on T.V. dude.

I'll give you a couple of hours, days ,weeks, months ,years to google these answers as well cause like I said I have tons more where those came from.

Answer 6

Well my boy William P took his turn with you on the ground technique so I'll try my hand with you on the stand up portion of this.

What changes need to to be made in a basic boxing stance to make it harder for you to be taken down? In order to avoid inadvertently hitting the end of your humorous(funny bone), how should the hand/ arm be angled when throwing an elbow? Is an elbow thrown the same way when you are using it as you close the distance to a clinch as it is from the clinch? Which has more power on it a knee from the outside or one from the clinch? Exactly what part of the knee are you striking with when you throw a knee? (Lots of professional fighters do it wrong) When throwing a leg kick what are you making contact with your opponent with? What parts of their legs should you be trying to hit with the kick? How do you defend against a leg kick?

Come on man, let's get real here just because you can watch people do it on TV doesn't mean that it is as easy to do as it looks. Yes, the submission locks you mentioned are some of the most commonly used, but they are not at all easy to apply and your control and angle of execution has to be dead on or it simply won't work. The same thing with the stand up part of MMA. Yes boxing will cover the hands and do a good job of it, but only the hands part of it. Many MMA fighter don't do any kickboxing they just go with their boxing and if that is their choice then so be it. Kickboxing/ Muay Thai is still very much a big part of the game though, even if you don't use it you are still going to have to learn how to defend against it. Let a real kickboxer leg kick you once or twice and we'll see what you think after a day or 2 of not being able to walk or let a good clinch kickboxer light your rib cage up with knees and slice your face up with elbows and see how easy it is to do and to defend. Ever taken a shin kick to the liver? It will put you flat on the ground begging for air.

As for where is Judo and wrestling, ever heard of Karo Parisyan? Judo monster dumps guys on there head left and right with beautiful judo throws. There were 2 asian fighters just on UFC 84 that were both really good with judo, one was from South Korea and the other was from Japan. I don't recall their names now, but they both had great Judo. Wrestling, that's just crazy let's see how about; Matt Hughes, Randy Couture, Dan Henderson, Quinton Jackson, Chuck Liddell, Josh Koscheck and the list goes on and on man all really good collegiate wrestlers and beyond.

You should really have some idea of what you are talking about before you go firing your mouth off.