Judo vs. jui jitsu?

Question

My question is in regard to which discipline I should take up. I am an ex wrestler who wants to continue a similar practice. I am mostly looking for ground work and I am not as interested in fist fighting...what should I take up?

Answer 1

From my experiences, I believe Jiu-Jitsu to work better with wrestling (knowing exwrestlers where I've trained). Many BJJ practitioners also train in No Gi or submission wrestling competitions, so you will have elements that cross over and help each other.

The primary focus of judo is to get your opponent to the ground, but as a wrestler I presume you have no difficulties in doing this.

If you are good on the ground but bad at take downs, try Judo. If you are good at take downs but lacking at submissions or controlling your opponent on the ground, try Jiu-Jitsu.

Answer 2

JUDO!!!!!!

Answer 3

As a wrestler you'll have a bad habit of turning to your belly in the ground. That habit will end up getting you choke or knocked out from behind. Take Either. They are the almost the same. Judo been around longer and it's what the Gracie's learned from. Jui Jitsu depends which one. JAPANIZE jui jitsu been around before Judo. Judo was made by Dr. Kano. Bjj is new and uses the guard effectively. Eddie Bravo made the 9th Planet Jui Jitsu recentlly. His Rubber guard is the New Real Deal! Eddie even submitted one of the Gracie family members. Gene Lebell had been using the Foot and leg control ( the gaurd) way before the Gracie's. Gokor his number 1 student is undefeated for over 15 years in combat! Take Sambo it's cool! Also you need to learn the basics of striking to defend yourself.

Answer 4

If you are just interested in ground work then bjj. Though the truth is if you find a good judo school you can get great at the ground to. And you'll learn to throw. Some judo schools will not spend nealy enough time on the ground but if you find a good one they will spend lots of time on the ground. Bjj though you will spend more time on the ground then judo

Answer 5

I am a former wrestler turned judoka.  If BJJ were available in my area, I'd definitely be doing both.  I recommend mixing  it up if you have the means to do so.  BJJ will get you good on the ground, and practicing the judo throws will whip you back into shape and add a new dimension to your throwing arsenal.

Nevermind the 'wrestlers have a bad habit of going to their belly blah blah blah'  hog-wash I say.  I found it relieving not to  be compelled to fight off your back to your belly.  Additionally once you get choked out once or twice from behind that 'bad habit' will go out the window.

As for the suggestion of taking aikido, I studied aikido and aikijujitsu intensely for the last 4 months.  Then I took judo back up.  30 minutes of intense grappling be it from Jiu Jitsu or judo will do more for you than 4 months of aikido or aikijujitsu in terms physical conditioning and practical application in a self defense situation.  Furthermore, I submitted an aikidoka blackbelt who also held a brown belt in judo.  I therefore come to the conclusion that aikido may be a waste of time and that your wrestling experience will have it's advantages.

Either way, enjoy!

Answer 6

judo is jujitsu..jujitsu is judo.

bjj comes from judo. (they will never admit it but its' true)

bjj is nothing like classical japanese jujutsu.

so the question is...japanese jujutsu..or brazilian? brazilian is almost nothing but groundwork.

judo is throwing, and grappling...but mostly throwing.

japanese jujtusu is a well rounded art with strikes, throws, standing locks, pressure points, throws, and groundfighting (more situational than bjj)

Answer 7

Judo closer as it still has pins. Try both see which one you like more Judo's typically cheaper though

Answer 8

depends on what you are looking for. are you looking for more ways to get the fight to the ground. you will learn some new cool ones for sure with judo and get some good submission training while doing judo.

If you do Ju jitsu you will learn anything new about how to get it to the ground except how to get choke while doing it(this goes for judo too) but you will be more focused on just submissions and not so much how to get it to the ground just what to do when you get there. being a wrestler already I see no advantage or disadvantage to either. just what you want to learn

so is it throws and some good submissions

or just really good at submissions

Answer 9

Judo is a tremendous and dynamic combat sport that demands both physical prowess and great mental discipline. From a standing position, it involves techniques that allow you to lift and throw your opponents onto their backs. On the ground, it includes techniques that allow you to pin your opponents down to the ground, control them, and apply various choke holds or joint locks until submission.

Judo originated in Japan as a derivative of the various martial arts developed and used by the samurai and feudal warrior class over hundreds of years. Although many of the techniques of judo originated from arts that were designed to hurt, maim, or kill opponents in actual field battle, the techniques of judo were modified so that judo students can practise and apply these techniques safely and without hurting opponents. Unlike karate, judo does not involve kicking, punching, or striking techniques of any kind.

Jujitsu techniques emphasise joint locking and throwing techniques, often against armed opponents. However, as the use of body armour has diminished during the past century, Jujitsu has evolved to incorporate some striking and kicking techniques back into its vast arsenal.

Typically, Jujitsu techniques favour the use of "soft blocks" which deflect an attack rather than "hard blocks" that are more common in striking arts like Karate and Taekwondo. They also often redirect and return the movement and momentum of an attacker against him/herself and make extensive use of joint locks to control an attacker. Joint locks can then be turned into throws or restraints as determined by the severity of the attack.

Students of Jujitsu learn escapes, evasion, holds, chokes, throws, weapon techniques, striking, kicking, rolling and falling and ground-fighting (grappling). Jujitsu is not reliant on strength, but relies on balance, speed and leverage.

Answer 10

Well said Mushin!!!!!! "Best answer"

Answer 11

Just to offer and alternative, have you ever considered studying aikido?

Answer 12

judo imo is the way to go. they teach many different types of throws (remember you don't even have to be strong for judo) and they teach you the basic submission techniques necessary to win a fight. so go with judo.

Answer 13

I have my boys in a karate school that mixes 4 different kinds of martial arts, kickboxing, & jui jitsu. My one son is a brown belt at the age of 10. He is always saying that the karate has made the jui jitsu easier for him because he has learned to anticipate what his opponent is going to do. He has no wrestling background. I know you are not interest in the fist fighting aspect, but many karate schools offer classes in just self defense and mix in judo and jui jitsu. You might be able to use that as a stepping stone to see which style you like better.