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What Would You Do? Dog Question?

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So here's the deal...

I go to the pet shop alot. I keep seeing this dog, my favorite of all time, and I named him Oliver. He is a red-dapple Dachshund. Most people call him ugly or say that he's cute and go walk off. I've never seen anybody hold/play with him (My sister hasn't either and she works there). We are very attached and he forms bonds quickly. I really like him but he happens to be $1,200. But my sister gets a 30% discount so it would be either $800 or $900 or something like that. My parents say we have too many animals, but if they bought him for me I have a bed, and extra time to take him places! I would even pay for his food and he would be my #1 priority dog-wise. Because I have a cat I love to death. I'm supposed to get over $220 for my birthday, the most would be $440. Then I might get $150 on September 21. And that's only from people outside of my family. My parents are paying the most would be $400 for my birthday party, so I might not get a birthday present. If I got Oliver, I'd pay them atleast $220 back and I could make him get another Dachshund pregnant so I'd get 50% the profit. So basically they would get most of their money back! I don't see why I shouldn't be able to get him...

I did the math and if I got the $150 I would pay them:

The cost for him will be approximatley: $840.00

If I got $150 and $440 I'd pay them back: $590.00

If I got $150 and $220 I'd pay them back: $370.00

I also won't ask for a Christmas present. This isn't counting what I'm getting from family and in a year I can pay them back with allowances, and I'll get a job.

What do you think? I should get the dog? Or I shouldn't?

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  1. The thing you also need to be aware of with Dachshunds is their back problems. As a Dachy owner myself, I understand how you could have fallen in love with one. I loff them to death myself. But Dachshunds not bred by proper breeders are often bred for appearance and not health and this leads to trouble and heartbreak later on down the line. Many professional breeders breed their pups for health and the strength of their backs rather than appearance. A breeder in my area spends thousands of dollars on testing to ensure that the dogs she uses have no history of arthritis, calcification or slipped discs to ensure the health of the offspring. If your heart is set on a Dachshund I would advise contacting a breeder who undertakes such practices. Or at the very least talk to the people who bred that puppy to find out it's history and that of it's parents. There is nothing more painful than having to put a 2 year old dachshund to sleep because it slipped a disc in it's spine and is paralyzed.


  2. A Red Dapple Doxie is a pretty common color for a doxie. You know you shouldn't buy from a pet store. The price is way too high. Sometimes we just see a puppy and there is an instant connection. You have done a lot of thinking and figuring to try to come up with financial ways to get this puppy. Don't you think part of the connection you feel with this puppy may have a lot to do with you feel sorry for him because he isn't getting much attention. I can almost garantee you will feel the same way about some little puppy in the shelter. There is a puppy out there calling for you but you may be looking in the wrong place for him. Before you buy, at least check out the shelter a couple of times. You have about 3 wks until your birthday. There are pure bred doxies in the shelter, or goggle dachshund rescues. At least check it out.

  3. 1. NEVER BUY A PUPPY just LOOKS, colour along, fur type-COLOUR, fur type and looks HAS NO INDICATION OF DOGS TEMPERMENT!

    2. Consider your lifestyle-

    4. Are you out more then 8hours a day

    5. Consider your energy requirements, Size, Grooming.

    6. Don't just buy because someone says this is the dog for you, people particular on yahoo answer will give you there particular favourite breed& what suits them, not what actually suit you.

    7. Read all you can-THERE are alot of false information on the web and in books about different dog breed.

    8 DON'T TRUST THOSE DOG BREED SELECTORS-MOST OF THE RESULTS ARE INCORRECT. Ex i search large breed dogs, and the Pomeranian came up, which of cause is a toy dog breed!!

    9. NEVER BUY FROM A PETSTORE, BACKYARD BREEDER, PUPPY MILL OR NEWSPAPER, DON'T BUY FROM NEXT DAY PETS OR DOG BREED INFO, RESCUE AN ADULT DOG OR SHELTER PUPPY!

    He find a home whereas shelter dogs WON'T

    PETSTORE ARE FAT LIERS.

    1. NEVER BUY A PUPPY just LOOKS, colour along, fur type-COLOUR, fur type and looks HAS NO INDICATION OF DOGS TEMPERMENT!

    2. Consider your lifestyle-

    4. Are you out more then 8hours a day

    5. Consider your energy requirements, Size, Grooming.

    6. Don't just buy because someone says this is the dog for you, people particular on yahoo answer will give you there particular favourite breed& what suits them, not what actually suit you.

    7. Read all you can-THERE are alot of false information on the web and in books about different dog breed.

    8 DON'T TRUST THOSE DOG BREED SELECTORS-MOST OF THE RESULTS ARE INCORRECT. Ex i search large breed dogs, and the Pomeranian came up, which of cause is a toy dog breed!!

    9. NEVER BUY FROM A PETSTORE, BACKYARD BREEDER, PUPPY MILL OR NEWSPAPER, DON'T BUY FROM NEXT DAY PETS OR DOG BREED INFO, RESCUE AN ADULT DOG OR SHELTER PUPPY!

    NO REPETABLE BREEDER WOULD SELL TO A PETSTORE.

    Lol, I went to this petstore the other day and i said where Did you get the puppies from? they said the breeders, they said they knew the breeders.

    I ask them about a particular dog that was a MUTT=Golden Retriver x Poodle=whether they knew the owners.

    They said they did, but IF THEY REALLY did THEY would have BEEN able to TELL me whether the golden retriver or poodles was the puppies mother. CLEARLY they DIDN'T KNOW the parents!

    ALSO NOTE PUPPY MILLS/BACKYARD BREEDER DON'T TEMPERMENT TEST there BREEDING DOGS.

    PETSTORE DOGS are aggressive with PEOPLE & other animals!, have numerous behavioural problems and other social issues as there ripped away from their mother's far too young & other health issues.

    My parents brought one a Labrador x Golden Retriver not known where they came from and at the time i had no knowledge of puppy mills, I WAS 9yr old, she was 8weeks old.

    Yes she is one of the ones that does have aggression, and numerous other behavioural issues and she does health problems, she had surgery when she was only 2 1/2 to have crucial ligament injury in her rear leg.that is very young for a dog to have this injury

    THEY ARE MAINLY from PUPPY mills, and some do come from Backyard breeder. who have the same issues that puppy mill dogs have.

    Prices

    Puppy mill/puppy farms=4000+

    Petstore=500+

    Shelter/Pound=Under 300 but does vary from shelter to shelter.

    I WOULD RUN AWAY AND IF I REALLY WANTED ANOTHER DOG, I WOULD RESCUE IT FROM A SHELTER/POUND

    Reason are watch these videos

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW4cp0AvC...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P75qYN2cV...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdcNl5Fqc...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HM8UmHM8...

    If you want a dog who...

        * Comes in a variety of sizes (all smallish)

        * Comes in a variety of coat types and colors

        * Is comical and entertaining

        * Doesn't need a lot of exercise

        * Makes a keen watchdog

        * Is sociable with other family pets, especially other Dachshunds

        * Lives a long time

    A Dachshund may be right for you.

    If you don't want to deal with...

        * Suspiciousness or sharpness toward strangers when not socialized enough

        * Scrappiness toward strange dogs

        * Stubbornness

        * Notorious housebreaking difficulties

        * Digging holes

        * Barking

        * Regular brushing/combing (Longhaired)

        * Regular clipping/trimming (Wirehaired)

        * A distinctive doggy odor

        * Serious back/spinal problems

    A Dachshund may not be right for you.

    If you have small children, I do not recommend a Dachshund. First, children cannot help being clumsy, and that a child meant well is little solace to a Dachshund puppy who has been accidentally stepped on, sat on, rolled on, squeezed, or dropped onto the patio. The Dachshund's long back is especially fragile and prone to damage when he is picked up incorrectly or dropped. Second, even Dachshund adults may feel overwhelmed by the loud voices and quick movements that children can't help making -- and stress and shyness may be the result. Finally, some Dachshunds simply do not tolerate any nonsense from children and will bite if pushed too far.

    Scratchies head in confusion, We have a petstore called Pets at Home australia and it sells shelter dog& cats & confirmed signs right around the store that they are LORT SMITH ANIMAL SHELTER and there around $90.this petstore makes NO profits from the adoption.Also these dogs/cats are spayed and neuter before being putting up for adoption! or actually being sold!

    http://www.petsathome.com.au/

    1,200 seems and awefully lots of a shelter dog, Are you sure there not pulling your leg, are there signs around the petstore such as the shelter name, shelter name inside the cages etc ?  If there isn't, then I guarantee there pulling your leg!

    MYTH: I'll find good homes for all the puppies and kittens.

    FACT: You may find homes for all of your pet's litter. But each home you find means one less home for the dogs and cats in shelters who need good homes. Also, in less than one year's time, each of your pet's offspring may have his or her own litter, adding even more animals to the population. The problem of pet overpopulation is created and perpetuated one litter at a time.

    Ethical Dog Breeders

    Anyway let’s get back to good dog breeders. Ethical breeders, as they are generally referred to, are the complete opposite of the unethical dog breeders we just talked about. Ethical breeders can invest thousands of pounds acquiring the best possible ‘stock’, sometimes even going to the expense of travelling abroad to view that stock on numerous occasions. They will also spend a great deal of money and time in owning, showing and learning as much as humanly possible about their chosen breed as well as studying all aspects of breeding and taking time off work to look after the litter when they are born. It’s not uncommon to find that the good, ethical dog breeders rarely make much money from breeding, because they generally invest all they have (and sometimes lots they don’t!) in the breeding and bettering of the breed they love.

    http://www.dogsey.com/dog-breeders.htm

    http://www.thepetcenter.com/gen/dbb.html

  4. DO NOT BUY A DOG FROM A PET SHOP!!!!  most of these puppies come from Puppy Mills.  they are not well bred and may have serious health problems as they grow up.  this can cause huge vet bills!!!  if you want a particular breed of dog call your local kennel club and get a breeder reference.  a good breeder will give you a health guarantee and will be a great resource to ask questions when they come up.  also it will not usually cost as much for a pet quality dog from a breeder.

    the initial cost of the dog is your least expense.  you should consider the cost of vet bills for puppy shots, spay/neuter etc. and for general health care of your dog for it's lifetime.  if you want to buy a dog get a job and save for it to prove to your parents that you are responsible enough to take good care of your dog.

  5. Finances apart (and you have really thought this out haven't you) I'd never buy a dog from a pet shop.  First off it encourages pet shops to carry on selling dogs which for me, is quite wrong.  Secondly, so much better to buy from a good breeder.  You will see the way the pup has been reared, see it's mum and possibly dad if an inside stud, and perhaps even more importantly, you will have the back up of the breeder should something go wrong, or should you just need help or advice.  Sad for 'Oliver' if you don't buy him, but you may be looking at a whole lot of trouble buying from a place that more than likely, buys their stock from a Puppy Mill.

    Just saw your add-on, but I still think you'd be best advised to walk away from this one.  Sorry!

  6. Well surely you are passionate about the dog and I trust you are very caring. Maintaining a dog is expensive and dachshunds are rather difficult breed. Can i suggest to you that have a deep breath? First get a job, save money, and contact breeders directly and make visits to them, so that you know where a puppy is from. Sometimes people can see you sincere and caring, they might even give you discount. God bless.

  7. I'm too tired to answer this except to say : The puppy ,being a pet store dog,most likely came from a puppy mill. You want to buy said puppy and breed it to make more pups that no one will want ( you said yourself that no one wants him.) This is insane. If you want a dog,go to your local shelter and get one that is already spayed or neutered and save your money to take care of it. Please don't support pet stores,as by doing so,you are supporting puppy mills.

  8. Oh my goodness.

    There are so many more important points to think about than the birthday money, discounts, and all the math.

    Seeing as your sister works at the pet shop, it's not likely that you or she will see any social or moral obligation or lack of it, in supporting an industry that supplies puppies to petshops, that being puppy mills.

    Your plan also includes breeding a dog (something you may know nothing about) that should never have been bred in the first place.  Reputable, responsible breeders would not sell their puppies in a pet shop.

    Petshops prey on people like yourself, who see an adorable dog, maybe one that is overlooked, and your instinct is to rescue him from this situation.  That is exactly their marketing plan.   The rest of your plan involves becoming a backyard breeder.

    I know this is probably falling on deaf ears.  Why not rescue a dog in a shelter, who only has a few days to live?

  9. Too many variables in  your little scheme. You are stretching your luck, even in a "best-case" scenario. It is obvious you don't have the where-with-all to get a puppy; then, off the bat, you want to be a breeder, too, to help pay for the pup; you are not talking like how a responsible dog owner would talk. See, your first legitimate concern should be to neuter him ASAP, and that's 100 + dollars, and there goes the puppy fee if he were at stud...And what if he were a dud stud? then where would the monies come from? Also you are liberally stretching your birthday hope-for monies. Did you notice how many times your payment scenario says "IF?" Too risky; You're not responsible enough, based on your payment plans, and you;re not financially able to take care of the demands of a puppy. What if he got sick?  What about his shots? What about preventatives, like heartworm, and flea & tick prevention? Regular check-ups? Grooming? I've owned Dashunds. They're not the easiest dog to maintain. They have lots of health issues.   Look, I'm not trying to be ugly, I'm just trying to let you see how impractical what you want to do is. Give it time! Get a job (when you're old enough. Prepare yourself for ownership responsibility. There'll be other dogs. Even as I write, there are other dogs right now for you that would be more practical and attainable...at rescue shelters..Needing a loving home, and much less expensive.

    Bottom line?   YOU SHOULDN'T!

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