Which of these horses?

Question

I have been riding (English) for 4 years now. I am searching for a horse to loan or buy, and I've still got to convince my stablesto let me keep it on working livery(I'm working on that lol) here's a few horses I am attracted to:

http://www.horsemart.co.uk/AdvertRef/HM826OF21/Page//Referrer/DisplayResultsAdvertiser.asp/Web/DisplayHorseDetail.asp

http://www.horsemart.co.uk/advertref/HM828N1D2/web/displayhorsedetail.asp

http://www.horsemart.co.uk/AdvertRef/HM830IHBA/Advanced/True/Page//Referrer/DisplayResultsHorses.asp/Web/DisplayHorseDetail.asp

Which one do you guys like the most? Also what lines can I use on the owner of the stables to get her to take a horse/pony in? I've only asked if they actually DO working livery and she said not normally but she never said that she doesn't do it or no.

Charlotte x

Answer 1

Forget the 'lines' to use on the owner. Be upfront and honest with her about what you would like to do. If she says no, then respect that. Keep in mind, you may actually get more experience riding differnt horses if you don't have your own horse.

Can you afford a horse? If you're not old enough to be working a job to make the money to pay for the horse, you probably can't afford the horse. Have you figured out the cost of vet bills (preventative care [vaccines, worming, etc] and emergencies), feed & supplements, farrier (trimming and/or shoeing), equipment (saddle, bridle, bits, blankets, brushes, etc) and so on. Who's paying for the purchase or leasing of the horse?

Many stables don't like doing working livery simply because there isn't enough work around to do. Think about it... if you were paid 8$ an hour, it would take 37.5 hours to work off 300$ worth of board. Thats every weekend of the month working 9 hours (8 hours work, with 40 min for lunch, & 20min for a break), with a few afternoons on top of that. If you're in school, that is a lot of time to be working.

If she's willing to consider letting you work off board, you need to make sure that both of you have the same expections. Together you need to write down the following:

~Cost of the board ($ value)

~What the board includes (stall or pasture or both, who feeds [hay and/or grain], who buys feed [hay and/or grain], stall/pasture cleaning, other care and keeping things)

~Number of hours per month to work off that board

~What type of work that will include (mucking stalls & pastures, throwing hay, cleaning tack, raking the arena, picking up trash, maintaining fences, handling horses, running machinery, and so forth)

~When will you be working (mornings, evenings, weekends, etc)

~Penalty if you don't complete the work (will you be allowed to pay the difference if you are sick and can't come out and work)

~What'll happen if you can't afford to pay your board? Maybe your parents will pay but if they don't, what happens then?  

Answer 2

white one

Answer 3

i like the first one. her owner seems to know quite a bit about horses and training them. the part about i would like to keep her is a good sign as well the lease to a good home or however he phrased it. i would say that he clearly cares about his horses and treats them well.

i would not consider he second one a possibility. the bucking problem and back problem and the "hurt in the past" part indicates that the owner probably doesn't know much about his past and also that there may be more problems with the horse. the owner seems to care about the horse but i would still stay away because of the back problem. it could get worse or there could be more problems.

i don't think you can determine anything aobut the third without talking to the step daughter, the stepdad sounds like he know very little about horses. i would talk to the rider before comparing him with the other two.

Answer 4

The first pony would require you to train and condition to the trail and aquire confidence, however she is a lovely pony and young; so that when you wish to get a horse she will be a young mare with a long working life still to offer someone else. The chestnut has a habit of bucking that they admit to--that means it's got a nose bag of tricks! beware! Grey mare is very small, so unless you have a younger sister or brother I would not invest.

Don't use any "lines" on anyone concerning your desire to get a horse, state your case truthfully, you will gain the respect of all.  

Answer 5

Ok if u wanted to show I would pick the 1st or 3rd

Answer 6

Well, the first one is only 3 years old and will need a lot of training, but it is a nice looking horse.

The second one is the cutest, but he bucks. Are you sure you'l be able to train that out of him? And he has some stiffness issues. I'm not sure he's going to be totally sound. Probably not the best choice.

The third one is not as cute as the others, but it seems to most broke and has the most potential to do stuff with you. I think of the three, I would choose this one.

Answer 7

I live in Australia so i'm not quite sure what working livery is but maybe you keep your horse there, pay some money and people coming for lessons can ride your horse???  So i'll base my answer around this.  Your going to need a horse who has experience, is reliable, calm and somewhat educated.  I doubt the owner would allow you to keep just any horse there under the livery conditions.  The second horse sounds like he has a pre existing injury, this can be heartbreaking, he could get worse and vets bills can get very large, so obviously he dosen't sound like the best horse to have in a livery.  The first horse sounds like a nice one, but once again she is young and at this stage of training could be ruined by other riders who don't know what they are doing.  The third horse sounds the best, done a fair bit, quiet, experienced, and a nice age, etc.  I think it would be a great first horse and would fit in at a livery very well.  But you have to consider your size too, if your a shorty like me, i still ride ponies and i'm 27! but if your growing or taller this pony might be a bit small for you. Overall you need to convince the owner, ask her about the three horses, which one would she be willing to have there?  Would she be willing to only let certain more experienced riders on the first horse? I advise against horse two, and just advise you to talk to the owner of the livery about it, after all it's her decision.  Good Luck!

Answer 8

I like the second and third ones. Say that you will turn her out, feed her, and that so she doesn't have to along with caring for the other horses.  

Answer 9

I think that the first one is all right but 3yrs old is a bit young. I wanted a 4yr old horse , i was about to buy him when i heard he had bag legs because he was broken in to early. The second one is beautiful you would win a lot off shows with him, he is really tall i like small horses so i don't have long to fall. The third one is is great and a really good price, this one is lovely but i am 5ft4 and have grown out off my favourite pony he is 12.3HH and i was heart broken . So don't pick a really small horse i would not like you to go through what ive been through. The next one sounds good and is BRILL price!! This one i don't like because she is young and a TB they are more expensive they need feeding. And in winter you don't ride her for a while she could just bolt off! I Hope this helps remember if you find the perfect horse keep visiting it don't just hear about and buy it. Ask the stable owner or some one experienced to come and help. Make sure you ride the horse in an arena and on a hack. Ask the owner to ride the horse first and tack up the horse too. Remember to lift all 4 hooves of the horse and ask lots off questions. And don't get a young or tiny horse. CHOOSE CAREFULLY HOPE THIS HELPS!!!!

Answer 10

I think I would choose the first horse.  She is gorgeous and also the youngest, which would give you the most years with her.  They are all beautiful.  Tell the owner that you will provide full care of the animal, well, all except roof over head.  Offer to help out with cleaning of the stables of other animals, feeding etc.  Good luck.

Answer 11

I don't like the first one. Look at the main and tail, it's coarse and frizzy. Most likely that will be hard to groom for a show!

The 3rd is my favorite, then the second. The thing I like about the 3rd is he's a looker, has a nice jump (they actually show a picture of him jumping!) and his body looks proportional and very balanced.

Take number 3 :]

Answer 12

I think the second one (the brown one) is gorgeous but the first one might be slightly easier going.

Answer 13

Personaly, I think the chestnut is the best for what I would want. I don't know how old you are or how tall, but I'm 5'3 and 12 years old. I have a 15.1 hand paint. I would suggest not to get a pony.

Answer 14

Sorry, but i think that none of these would be suitable (for me) (i've been riding hunter/jumper english for like five years). the first one is too small..along with the last one. i like horses...not ponies. my horse has to be atleast 15 hands...ATLEAST. the second one is older....which would mean more broken in...bomb proof. also, the second one is taller...like 16.3 or something. however, i do not like the second one because of the fact that in one of the pictures, his back looks long. that way, he will be a sloppy mover and willl have to use his front end more, rather than the back. look for others. i good place is dreamhorse.com

did i help?

Best answer?

I would appreciate it.

Email me for more horses to look at...i like this kind of stuff.

oh, if you email me, say what kind of riding you want to look into..jumper, on the flat, trail, dressage...stuff like that

k thanks

Answer 15

I dont really like any of them.. i think the little grey one may be the most suitable for a first pony... but he is very small, and regardless of how tall you are now, you will grow out of him pretty quickly.

You really need to look around more at some horses.. i really dont like the confirmation of the first one..its shoulder looks too steep.. the second has a longer back (not good for proper jumping form) and he doesnt seem like her has a very good attitude..theres not really any good pics of the grey to be able to tell much about his confirmation.

I would suggest asking your trainer if she knows of any horses for sale/lease that would be suitable for you..and make sure you have her go with you when you try them out.

Answer 16

The black mare is fairly young so will require training but she is a fine looking horse.  Sweet Itch can be a little annoying to deal with but nothing crucial.

The Appaloosa is long backed, has a weak loin, and appears stiff in the neck.  The owner also mentions that he occasionally bucks.  Out of the three, this is the last one I would choose.

The grey Welsh, I think, is the best choice of these three.  In the two riding snapshots, he appears mellow and easy to ride.  In the top picture, his legs are straight, his chest is appropriately muscled, and he appears to be perfectly content with other activities in the background.  The ad also mentions that he is easy to handle and groom and comes with tack, rugs, and passport which are all important and potentially expensive.

Answer 17

well the first and the last one are really really cute but  WAY to small if you are young you should get a horse that you can grow into.

Answer 18

I'd pick the first one, look at the deep burgundy colour in his coat- I've never liked white horses.  

Answer 19

Go for the 1st. horse.

Answer 20

First of all these horses are all very different in height. The first is 13.2.. the second is 16.1 and the third is 12.2 that might be something to consider in your decision. Other than that I like the second one best. I don't know why.. I'm just drawn to him.

Answer 21

You do not say what you want to do with them.  No. 1 lookss small if that is you on its back.

No. 2 is a definite no no - did not like the look of his way of standing - before I read anything about him.

No 3 looks good.  Just because he is good for novices, does not mean that he will have no sparkle to him, and be up for greater things.

I would go for 3.  But you do not say how big you are what your interests are.

As for the yard manager, I would say that they would not take No 1 as he is too young, No.2 bucks and has back problems, No.3 looks good and safe.  They might take him on.

Answer 22

The first and third horse the most collected and calm. But it really isn't up to us. if I were you I would go look at all three of them! Just remember NEVER buy for looks! The best horse in the world could also be the ugliest! lol

♣Good Luck♣

Answer 23

i liik the white one... the first one would be my second choice

Answer 24

i most definatley love the second horse!!!!!!!!

***but like they said above me...

Answer 25

you should consider the last one. the first one is very young and so it wouldnt be a greater starter pony. the second wouldnt be either as it bucks and it is quite big for a first pony, so i would go for the last as it has got show experince and it  seems a generally nice pony for you to learn the art of horse keeping!

as for the persuading, well you should just go out an ask them! there wouldnt be any harm but make it as polite and straight to the point as possible. make sure you tell them what you will do in return for keeping the horse there and you could also pay them a small amount of money a month for the grass etc (£15 per month?)

good luck!

Answer 26

the 3 yr old is far too young- yes i know you might want a challenge but theyre so unpredictable its not just schooling you would have to think about. i would say 16.1hh is a little too big, im also 5ft1/2 ish and im happy with my lovely 15hh. maybe go for something 14hh-15hh

i wouldnt go younger than 7 really. You can always teach them some dressage moves as a challenge!

*******I know you havnt got enough money for some of the horses suggested or something that i would say is suitable for you but can you put a price on the right sized safe horse? Buying a horse shouldnt be rushed and i think you should save up more to give yourself more options.********

Answer 27

I wouldn't touch any of them the 1st is too young to be shoved into working livery and would need allot of time and patients to get it going let alone stress keeping on top of the sweet itch. It is also pretty small. The chestnut has a bad back to why buy a crocked horse when there are so many good ones out there! And the third one is a section D yeah right it's the smallest section D I have ever seen in my life it will be impracticable to have a pony so small! I personally wouldn't want my horse on working livery but that's just me!

Try looking at some nice horses that haven't got anything wrong with them and which are not too big or too small for you!  

Answer 28

Ok what height do you want? What height are you? Those ponies will be too small and the horse is probably too big. You need something more like this;

http://www.horsemart.co.uk/AdvertRef/HM8...

Did anyone else notice that the ponies are 12.2 and 13.2 but the horse is 16.1 with a bad back?

Answer 29

1st Horse-Nice looking but they are only 3.

2nd Horse- No I would not buy him at all he has a bucking problem and stiffness in his back. He was also slightly hurt by someone in his younger years so he will most likely have trust issues

3rd Horse-Very nice horse not a lot of info though.

I personally (if I would fit niclely on them, which I wouldn't I am too tall) would buy horse 1, but I have been riding for 7 years. I have also helped train 4 horses and a pony. The 3rd horse would make a great horse for a little less advance rider, since it is nicely broke.

Answer 30

I like the second 1