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Rule help for magic the gathering.?

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My friend has a artifact out that alows him to tap it and gain one heath. he was at 6 health and i delt 15 damage to him, he let it take him to zero and taped his artifact, he clams that will save him. wouldnt that bring him to a negative point of something?

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  1. What? lol.  Ok here is what happens.

    During the combat step, the damage between creatures and players are dealt.  So if you do 15 damage to him bringing him to 0, he just died.  There isn't a way for him to gain more life since he has been dropped to 0 (meaning the game just ended).  He can gain 1 life at the beginning of the combat step, before the damage is dealt, but you can't gain it once you died....that doesn't make sense :D

    Also if that were the case, games would never end.


  2. Well, although the other answers are correct, they didn't explain it very well.  He will die, and the reason why is the order that things happen.

    Let's assume that you are attacking him with creatures that will deal him 15 points of damage.  The damage goes on the stack.  Players have a chance to take actions, then the damage resolves.  So, you have 15 points of damage aimed at him.  He takes action and raises his life total to 7, then takes 15 points of damage and dies.  If he lets damagfe resolve, he is then dead and can take no durther action.  If you were only doing 6 points to him, or less, he would survive.

    Hope that helps.

  3. Let's just say you hit him for exactly 6 points of damage putting him at 0. He then taps his artifact to gain life. The ability goes on the stack. As part of resolving the ability both players life totals are checked. Since the "game" sees him at zero health he loses, the ability is removed without resolving, and you win. Even if that didn't happen your life total is tracked below zero so you hitting him for 15 actually reduces his life to -9 and even if the ability resolved would leave him at -8 still losing the game. Only way to avoid is with a card that says he doesn't lose for having 0 or less life or something similar.

  4. ok im afraid your friend is an idiot.

    alright your friend is on 6 you deal him 15 damage

    you say "my creatures deal 15 damage to you"

    he says "ok"

    he passes so he cant put any thing on the stack

    You say "ok"

    the damage resolves he is on 0(the rules say if any value is less than zero it is treated as zero instead)this fact may lend support to your friends arguement

    however he is in zero he tappes the 'tangle bloom'

    he tries to gain one life to survive.

    but wait he has already lost the game.

    if a player is on 0 life at anypoint he or she immediatley loses the game.

    this is because of the rule about state based effects.

    these do not go on the stack and so nothing can be done in response to them

    (you can however do things in response to what causes this)

    state based effects do not use the stack they just happen.

    so say you play a giant growth on a 2/2 creature it gets +3/+3

    however your opponent says

    "wait i play shock it takes 2 damage"

    you say

    "you idiot it gets +3/+3 it survives"

    your opponent says

    "no it dies your an idiot"

    ]

    your opponent is correct it dies and this is why.

    what gopes on the stack last resolves first.

    this leads me back to your original question

    the creature takes 2 damage then get +3/+3

    but the creature took 2 damage while it was a 2/2

    so it ios dead then it gets +3/+3 but it is dead and nothing happens.

    your friend died so he could not have gained one life to survive. he could of however gained one life with tanglebloom while combat damage was on the stack and this is what would happen.

    he gains one life and gets to 7 life.

    he takes 15 damage from your creatures and dies.

    if you have more questions feel free to email me at jordonmorrissey@hotmail.com

    i am a veteran player and will be happy to help you with deckbuilding rules problems and any other problem you may have.

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