Russia cluster bombs the Georgians?

Question

BBC is reporting that Thursday russian planes used cluster bombs on civilian areas of Georgia.human rights organisations are saying that around 190 people were killed in the Georgian onslaught on the 8/08 and not 3000 as claimed by the russians.Of the 190 all but a handful were military rather than civilians casualties.Figures are provisional subject to change.But so far it does look as if georgian forces were aiming at the right targets.The most brutal killings were carried out not by russians and not by georgians but by ossetian militia who where raping burning and executing Georgian people in their homes.l also learnt from the telegraph newspaper,that it takes 10 years to become a russian citizen.The Russians turned up in vehicles and issued passports with photos to ossetians in 2/3 days.This is illegal under russian law.The ossetians took the passports,not necessarily out of love of russia (though they dislike georgians) but as an easier form of getting into the EU as russia has a special status in the EU and georgia does not.

Answer 1

I do not doubt most of what you say except the part about Ossetians wanting to be part of the EU. Russia is not an EU member and now I seriously doubt that she ever will be one.

In so far as Russia's use of cluster bombs on civilians, well, no one really claims that Russia is a civilized country.

Answer 2

.....but its totally OKKK to murder 2000 civilians in one night, isnt it?

Hi. Plz look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6... . It is video from FoxNews in live broadcast. There one girl with aunt tell about situation in Ossetia. They live in USA, but when the war happened, they were in Ossetia and saw all by themselves. I ask you about this because Youtube corrupt free speech and freeze counters and delete comments (just look dates of comments at the second page and so on). They say that if you have american IP you can't see it, but i don't know exactly. Anyway the title is: "Fox News: 12 Year Old Girl Tells the Truth about Georgia".

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u r a piece of ***!! South Ossetians wanted to join Russia long ago! Passports were issued to protect people from any harm and take them under russian protection!

NATO crossed the law -offered to join them to the countries with territorial problem unresolvd! US media nothing, but bunch of liers. ....even u-tube link is blocked from US

Gentle giant whom you call civilians? georgian murderes, who killed children women and eldery "fair-working" them with bombs?  10 cities in one night???   such a c**p!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH REALLLYYY!!!   I AM OSSETIAN, AND KNOW ABOUT WHAT HAPPEND BEFORE U EVEN TURNED UR HEAD OFF OLYMPICS ...AND NOW THIS BULL***!!.......YOU KNOW WHA?  U TRY TO PULL THAT WHEN 2000 AMERICANS MURDERED IN ONE NIGHT, HOW BOUT THAT?!

PS: why dont you all go there and see for urself before u side with murderers and be wiped out by russians?

Answer 3

The Russians deny using cluster bombs but the first reports were actually by a non-partisan international human rights group so between the two I don't think I would believe the Russians.  As far as the actions being by the South Ossetian para-military groups and not the Russians: The Russians armed them, trained them, the Russian "Peace Keeper" did nothing to stop them shooting at georgians or shelling them for three days prior to the attack and nothing to stop them after the fighting broke out, and in at least one city the Russian armored units drove off the Georgians then stood guard for the South Ossetians to do the dirty work so they could claim, as they did, the Russians didn't do it.

Answer 4

You say this like the US are not the ones with the biggest arsenal of cluster bombs in the world! I'm an EOD tech and have spent the last 9 years clearing unexploded US cluster bombs - mainly Mk118 and BLU 97. The BLU 97 is a nasty item, painted yellow withe a small parachute on the top it's begging to be picked up and thrown by a child.

The Russians have cluster bombs, but the US have more and use them at every opportunity

Answer 5

Well either this is propaganda, or Russia is very suspect.

Answer 6

Yes and Britain and America have been doing the same in Iraq. You need to take a good look at what our countries have done.