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Russia or Georgia: Who is to blame?

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So with Russia invading Georgia, many around where I live are pointing the blame to big-bad Russia with the whole ordeal...so what do you think? Who is really to blame?

Honeslty, I think Georgia is to blame. I've done a bit of research on the whole ordeal, and I'm seeing that Georgia has been responsible for various acts of violence against Russian people. Honeslty...did they really think Russia would just get mad about it? It's no surprise that they're doing what they're doing. To make it worse, the United States is poking their noses into it like it's our business. As far as I'm concerned, we just need to stay out of it. It's none of our business, it's not our fight, hence, it shouldn't be our problem. If Georgia did indeed kill Russians or commit other acts to provoke the Russians to act, who is to blame?

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  1. No one is to blame. Russia and Georgia were brotherly nations for centuries.

    The only man who is responsible for this is Saakashvili.

    And there is no need in Hague... Georgians and Osetians will kill him. You know, still there is vendetta at Caucus. And now Saakashvili got thousands of blood enemies.


  2. Ugh It was neither. South Ossetia started it.

    http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=1...

  3. Somehow the U.S like always:S

    Prolly Mexico.

  4. Clearly This is a debatable issue.  I suggest you head over to http://www.proveit4cash.com.  This site provides online Competitive and Academic Debate.  It uses a cash prize to stimulate good debate.  It is free to participate!

  5. I dont know who, but it needs to stop. Seriously, why cant they just let us live without fear?

  6. First, a little history.

    Georgia is a small country and has been under the control of Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. President Shevarnadze was Russia's man. Then came the Rose Revolution, which was led by local Georgian NGO's sponored by the Soros foundation (USA). Saakashvili and his party governed by the US overthrew the Georgian government and are still getting payed official salaries by the Soros foundation.

    Georgia is the second post-soviet country that the US has siezed control of. The other one's Ukaraine (Orange Revolution).

    Russia was mad. This spring US tried to sieze control of another post-soviet country, the naighbour of Georgia - Armenia (Dance Revolution). This attempt was unsuccessful, because Russia had strong roots in here. Inocent blood was shed in Armenia.

    Now, in this region (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbayjan, Turkey) there is another conflict back from 1988. Azeris want Karabakh (An autonomy freed by Armenians in 1994). This is an open war. Ceasefire agreement was signed between the two nations, but it ended in 2004. The Russian government which is "ruling" Armenia doesn't want peace in the region, because it would mean open-borders and super-fast development of the region. This region is in a very stratigic geographical place. It connects Russia, Europe and Iran. The Russians obviously want straight access to Iran through Armenia), US wants its Allies near Iran.

    US will do everything to keep Georgia. Of course US doesn't care about how many Georgians will die, what will happen to South Osetia, thats why US is acting very slowly and carefully allowing the conflict to end in it's own (if it is possible). US doesn't want a direct war with Russia, but that is also a possibility.

    People, we are in a war! There is a war going on between Russia and USA since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Think about how many small conflicts like these have we seen during all this time (Kosovo was the last). And all of them, all of them are connected directly with Russia and USA. And no matter what country you are from, you are a part of this war. You are either on one side or the other. Call this WWIII if you want.

    And to finish this I will give you one more reason for the Georgian conflict.

    Russia has many small regions inside it (just like S. Osetia) which want independence. Russia has always wanted S. Osetia, but also feared that if S. Osetia freed itself peacefully from Georgia, all the other small regions inside Russia would want to follow that example. So now Russia is demonstrating its cruelty and showing them what will happen, if they have a problem with Russia.

    Also, for people who think that the pro-western or Russian media aren't telling the truth. Of course they aren't. Pro-Western media is controlled by the ....... let's say, Power that is ruling the West. The Russian media is controled by Roman Abramovitch, a close friend of Vladimir Putin. Don't belive the media, try to take information from both of them and carefully analize it and you'll be closer to the truth

  7. Hi,

    I am not a fan of pointing the finger of blame, but I accept your thinking that the folks in Georgia brought it upon themselves.

    I also wish the USA would stop poking their finger into world affairs.

    "World peace keepers" my bottom !

    I only need mention Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Greece,  etc., etc.

    To show that the USA has a lot to answer for.


  8. Well, sure Russia is the usual subject, but only because it has a history of invading, slaughtering, committing genocide, meddling in other countries' internal affairs, and setting up puppet governments.

  9. Last I checked, Russian forces are in Georgian territory, not the reverse.  Russia is sinking Georgian vessels, not the reverse.  Russia is bombing Georgian cities, not the reverse.  Russia signed a cease-fire, then ignored it; the reverse is not true.

    Russia has no more business invading over South Ossetia - which is a Georgian province - than the US would invading Canada over some internal squabble with Quebec.

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