Russia threatens to NUKE Poland over US deal?

Question

d**n it, these Russians are thugs.

"Poland, by deploying (the system) is exposing itself to a strike — 100 percent," Nogovitsyn, the deputy chief of staff, was quoted as saying.

He added, in clear reference to the agreement, that Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." Nogovitsyn that would include elements of strategic deterrence systems, he said, according to Interfax.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080816/ap_on_re_eu/russia_us_missile_defense

Answer 1

Russia is a pu$$y its to scared!

united we stand

divided we fall

Answer 2

The Cuban Missile Crisis, remember?. The US was fuming mad to the fact that Castro agreed with the Russians to set up missile sites in Cuba, right at America's doorstep. That's exactly the case with Poland now.

History repeats itself.... and like a stage play, the setting and the actors involved may change with each show, but the roles and storylines remain the same.

Answer 3

Its all just for show

There will only be 10 missile interceptors in Poland, none of which guarantee a high chance of success, as none of our missile defense systems are foolproof

they could maybe, MAYBE stop 1-3 missiles

Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons

they've nothing to be afraid of...except of looking behind the times in terms of international acceptance

if they cant have allies, like us, they want people who are to afraid of them to side with anyone else

Answer 4

Welcome to CWII

Answer 5

Wow, what an aggression? Why so upset Mr. S.Y.?

For one, question was about Poland and Russia. And Russian response was very typical for them. Even if the doctrine says "nuclear weapons" and those interceptors are nothing nuclear nor strike weapons, but purely defensive systems, Russian minister added that somehow the term nuclear missiles would include interceptors too. Quite a leap, including defensive interceptors into strike nuclear missiles class. But, hey, it's Russia...

Next, it is very obvious that Russian invasion of Georgia did speed up things on many fronts. Including efforts of small neighbors of Russia to join NATO to have some protection from cranky Russian bear.

Although, the truth is Russia didn't became like this overnight, It was an empire 500 years or so. Thus, the neighbors know them well. Poland was seeking NATO membership long ago. So was Georgia, Ukraine and others.

Russia fuels separatism in Georgia since 1990 with arms and money, participates in Georgian genocide in 1993 in abkhazia and now they are surprised Georgians turn their back on them and seek western allies?

Russia threatened Poland(and few other disobedient countries) to aim their nukes at them few months ago and now they're pissed off Poland is installing nuclear defense system?

What's wrong with this picture?

Now to Mr. S.Y.'s claims:

1) Ossetia is 90%  ethnic Ossetins, not Russians. They were given Russian passports, practically overnight in violation of Russian laws too. Besides, giving Russian passports to armed paramilitary formations on foreign soil is a form of aggression. S.O. even today is Georgian territory, even Russia doesn't claim different, yet.

By the way, I don't have any confirmed claims that Georgians were ethnically cleansing or planing to do so, but...

Yesterday S.O. president Kokoiti officially declared that they're done looting and burning Georgian homes and that Georgian refugees will not be allowed to return.

That is 100% ethnic cleansing, except it's clearly committed by Ossetins with full Russian support and military help against Georgians.

2) Arguable. Like we all know Russia sponsored and fueled Ossetian separatism since early 90s. S.O. side was shelling Georgian side daily since aug. 1st. planted a bomb on Georgian side injuring 6 police officers. And the night attack begun, S.O. was shelling 2 Georgian villages which prompted the attack.

3) What's up with the very inconsistent number of dead civilians provided by Russians and Ossetins?  Day 1, Russia reports over 2000 civilians dead by Georgian bombardment, day 2, Russia lowers the civilian casualties to 1600, which is still circulating and starts investigating genocide to which only Russian investigators are allowed, why?

3 days later HRW, which is international organization reports 44 dead and 273 treated for wounds. So... During 6 days of being in Tskhinvali neither Russians, nor Ossetions can show a single photo or video of thousands of dead. HRW says Ossetin doctors provide factual data of 44 dead. Where are the rest 1556 or more bodies? May be it never happened?

I read interview with two known Russian human rights activists, they mainly were arguing that it was immoral of Russia to inflate the number of casualties like that fueling national tensions even further.

4) Unfortunately for all Russia didn't stop in Ossetia and went to occupy half of Georgia.

5) Are you Russian? Blaming jews and US for all their problems since 1917 revolution is quite in the style of Russian nationalists.

6) Russia invaded independent country, killed innocent civilians, looted and robbed. On top of that Russia was arming and financing  separatists in S.O. and Abkhazia for 15 years now.

As for your 6 reasons... So far I saw 2.. Except they're pretty much the same. Explaining everything with Jewish-Zionist conspiracy a favorite argument of hotheaded Russian nationalists.

Finally, my question to you, how come in all those situations Russia is a good guy and the rest of the world is bad and against them? Ok, if not the rest of the world at least it's closest neighbors.

Today, you and your comrades claim Russia is busy rebuilding country and nothing else. Somehow Georgia,Ukraine, Poland, Moldova(where Russia also finances and arms separatists), Azerbaijan, all Baltic republics.. They're all wrong? That's just your borders I listed. Don't you think Russia did something wrong even before this invasion to alienate all of its neighbors?

Answer 6

WW3 is among us. everyone who douts it or doesn't think so is naueve to the world....and its current situation

Answer 7

I don't understand how they can believe that we are planning to attack them rather than dealing with the terrorist attacking us, with this story it now seems to be the only complete resolution of the building situation is for Russia to capture Osama bin laden, and then Gage our response...I'm certain they will be satisfied that this has not been a ploy.

Other wise it's just going to be world war three, regardless of much back pedaling our administration or the Russian leadership attempts.

The U.S. will go from war weary to self righteous in a flash.