SO basically an IMMATURE man is a man who's behavior is NOT benefitical to WOMEN?

Question

One of the more annoying things about a lot of women today is their false belief that they are more mature than men. When I thought about all the behaviors men typically do that women label as "immature" I noticed they all had ONE COMMON THEME.... They did NOT benefit women!!!

Behaviors women call "immature":

-Lack of interest in a serious commited relationship. Especially if over age 25. (Because commitment benefits women by giving them a feeling of security)

-Lack of interest in marriage over age 30 (see above)

-Playing video games (Women want to be the only source of pleasure for a man)

-Watching p**n (See above)

-Not talking about our feelings (Women can't use what we say to manipulate us)

-Going out with the boys after marriage (See above "video games")

-Physical violence (scary)

-Cat calls (It's annoying to them)

So any male behavior that doesn't serve women in some way is seen as "immature" behavior??

Opinions please...

Answer 1

Oh yeah, and you're "immature" if "all you care about is s*x" and immature if they can't use s*x as a manipulation tool. I am now "immature" because I chose celibacy, and don't play their silly stupid flirt games at work so I am "grumpy" when any or all of them would run to the boss to send me down the road if I was to be flirtatious or even flirt back.

Answer 2

No not really. There are a lot of other things that guys do that don't benefit women and it isn't considered immature. Also, some of the things on your list are rude which can be immature and some just really aren't immature. Just things.

Answer 3

I notice that what you're really saying is that there is a double standard: the women you're talking about will notice "immature" behaviors in others (the "me only" behaviors) but not in themselves.

One sign of maturity is being able to put others ahead of you.  Sadly yes, this is very much forgotten in this day and age.  There are too many selfish (or self-absorbed) people in the world.

Answer 4

Dude, where do you get some of these wacky ideas?

No, if you're not wanting a serious commitment or marriage that's fine. Just be HONEST about it in advance. Too many men pose themselves in a certain light, then change their minds.

I don't care about violence I tend to think it's more natural to men.

Cat call? Oh, come on! You're not seriously trying to say that ISN"T immature are you?

While I wouldn't label any of the rest of it is immature it is definitely self serving to the guy without regard to the woman.

Which again is fine if he wants to be free, but you shouldn't try to have your cake and eat it too.

Answer 5

Most human beings are social and to be in a committed relationship shows a sense of maturity for both men and women.  The ability to look beyond oneself is one that is tremendously impactful.

There is not always a need for marriage; however since women have more to compromise from a committed relationship than a man does, it is often beneficial to have some sort of legal contract between two partners.

Not every man is interested in playing video games.  Many men like to play cards, go out to dinner w/ friend, play golf or tennis.  I cannot imagine if a man and a woman are in a mature committed relationship this would be an issue.

Both men and women talk about their feelings. You are making a statement that sounds as if men are completely out of touch with their own sense of worth.  That's very sad.

Answer 6

Immature is immature, whether it is a man or a woman.  Some of these are immature (like physical violence), most of these are just lifestyle choices.

Answer 7

If you were smart, you'd know it's already been proven women mature faster than men. Sorry if that disappoints you, you don't have to rant about it.

Answer 8

I think what's immature in a man is an attitude of "I'll do whatever I want to do, when I want, and to whomever I want".  The attitude of someone who twists concepts around in order to make them benefit him.  Someone who accepts no responsibility for his behavior, but mentally twists the behavior into something someone else did.  

That's what I find immature in a man; one who doesn't know what maturity is.

Answer 9

Why do you feel that we are only after what is beneficial to us?  I would start with that being immature, but that is neither here nor there.  Let's go down your list:

Lack of interest in a serious committed relationship. Especially if over age 25 - first of all, you must be in a relationship where this is true.  If she wants to get serious, and you don't, then she needs to move on.

-Lack of interest in marriage over age 30 (says who?  Jerry Springer?)

-Playing video games - Women don't have to be THE only source of pleasure for a man, but don't you think screaming die d**n it die at the TV makes you look a little ridiculous?

-Watching p**n - If you have to use artificial videos to get in the mood, then you have other intimacy issues.  

-Not talking about our feelings - Women don't use your feelings to manipulate you unless you let them.  But sometimes we want to know your feelings so you are included in the final decision.

-Going out with the boys after marriage - if you feel like you can't go out with the boys after marriage, then you have some problems of your own to work out.  Going out with the boys is no problem.

-Physical violence - Why the h**l would you think this is okay?  

-Cat calls - Do I really need to explain to you why this is immature?  If I do, then you aren't ready to be a grown up and you need to go back to Never Never Land.

Answer 10

And yet these behaviours MIGHT benefit women and also some of them are UNDENIABLY immature.

1. Lack of interest in a serious committed relationship is only a problem if the woman IS interested in a serious committed relationship. And it's not just women that view a serious committed relationship as a sign of maturity anyway.

2. (see above)

3. Video games are fine if they're played in moderation. But if someone is playing video games at the expense of doing housework and other necessary tasks, yes this is being immature.

4. Watching p**n. Again, not a problem in moderation, but if it interferes with your relationship, then it might be a problem.

5. Talking about feelings. I expect any adult to be able to communicate about their feelings to a reasonable degree. This benefits women because they know where they stand (and vice versa). Nothing wrong with this.

6. Going out with the boys. Not a problem, unless it's every night. Why bother getting married if you never do stuff with your wife?

7. Physical violence. Men should be able to control their violent urges by adulthood. Anyone who cannot use rationality and logic in place of lashing out with his fists IS a child.

8. Cat calls are about as immature as it gets.

Answer 11

Erm phsycial violence and cat calls are not about maturity, they are social behaviour problems.

Answer 12

The fact that you think proper behaviour is encouraged by woman for nefarious deeds just shows how immature you are. Would your parents who supposedly have your best interests in mind not want you to act this way too?

Working (instead of playing video games) is mature. It benefits you because it gives you income and a sense of purpose. Being married instead of jerking off to p**n all day is also much more fulfilling and purposeful.

If I need to explain to you what's wrong with violence and cat calls....well, I just really hope your not in a relationship with a woman right now, you really aren't ready for it.

Stop blaming women for these things and ask yourself why you're so afraid to grow up.

Answer 13

This is not a "false belief" of "a lot of women."  It is a theory of one male.

Many of the behaviors listed are anti-social, or are indicative that the person isn't ready for a relationship.  That doesn't mean that men are immature.

Also, plenty of men do not engage in those behaviors.  It's a stereotype.

Answer 14

1.  Lack of interest in a serious committed relationship is not the problem - lying and saying you want a committed relationship and then cheating is what's immature.

2. Lack of interest in marriage over the age of 30 sometimes is immaturity, and sometimes is just a personal decision.  

3.  I have no problem with video games, in fact I like them.

4.  Ditto on p**n

5.  If you can't talk about your feelings, then yes, you're immature, or maybe just unintelligent.  You should be a big enough person at 25-30 to actually tell someone tactfully in a relationship how you feel, what you need, the cognitive processes behind the things you do etc.  

6.  Going out with the boys is not  a problem, unless you get into #7

7.  Physical violence is not something that should be advocated period.....I'm not sure why that would be a hard concept.

8.  Who really makes cat calls anyway other than construction workers?  I mean unless you're half way joking and it's someone you know.

Answer 15

chill Mike... I agree that I view some of the above list as semi-immature, but my husband views shopping as a waist of money... to each there own.

Edit: Kapatilist whatever demonstrates nicely how silly this concept is...

Answer 16

""-Lack of interest in a serious commited (sp) relationship. Especially if over age 25. (Because commitment benefits women by giving them a feeling of security)""

Commitment benefits each person in a relationship - they share a concern and emotional connection.    

"-Lack of interest in marriage over age 30 (see above)"

Marriage builds on commitment and that leads to a real intimate relationship.  

"-Playing video games (Women want to be the only source of pleasure for a man)"

If anyone spends 90% of their free time connecting with a computer then something is wrong.

"-Watching p**n (See above)"

An obsession with p**n yes.  If that is their main goal in life -s*x through voyeurism - again something is wrong.    Casual views are different.  

"-Not talking about our feelings (Women can't use what we say to manipulate us)"

Not talking about feelings indicates detachment.   People learn about each other when they share.

"-Going out with the boys after marriage (See above "video games")"

Friendship does not dissolve after marriage.   Why would it?  But if someone only wanted to go out with friends or do it 6 nights a week they aren't ready to be married.

"-Physical violence (scary)"

Mature people usually solve problems by talking it out.   Its okay to defend yourself but if thats the only way they can solve a problem - again something is wrong.

"-Cat calls (It's annoying to them)"

Its annoying to everyone.  

Immaturity doesn't serve men.

Answer 17

Oh my God, I'm an immature man!!!

Let's see... one by one

-Lack of interest in a serious committed relationship. Especially if over age 25.:That is a societal thing, not nec. just from chicks. But I think it's slowly going away... like the spinster-stigma.

-Lack of interest in marriage over age 30 (see above)

-Playing video games: I think a lot of chicks see video games as toys. They aren't into them, don't understand how much fun they are... but I know a lot of guys who whine like 3 year olds when  they have to spend that $50 on food for their children instead of a game, so that's where the immaturity label comes from with this one.

-Watching p**n: New one for me... I've never heard anyone say that p**n was immature - pervy, but not immature.

-Not talking about our feelings: No one should do that.

-Going out with the boys after marriage: As long as you don't go out looking for a bordello, I see nothing wrong with it so long as you have some respect for your sleeping wife who has to get up at 6 to go to work when you get home.

-Physical violence: What kind of physical violence? Slapping her b/c she didn't fix breakfast at 6:30 on the dot is immature... but wrestling around or having a slap fight is just good fun, at least till someone gets hurt - then it's funny.

-Cat calls: OK, so this one is a little childish. But it's only because it takes you back to 3rd grade playground behavior. Remember yelling out hateful things to the girls you liked, hitting them with rocks, etc.

What I feel is immature - begging a girl to marry you, then bitching about being married (burns my biscuits); staying up drinking all night and missing work the next day b/c you're hungover; walking out and not calling for days b/c your wife mentions that you may have a drinking problem b/c you got fired

Answer 18

An immature man is one whose behaviour is detrimental to other people. If it has no effect at all, any immaturity he may have is less evident. None of the things you listed is detrimental (except physical violence, obviously, and sometimes cat-calling), so your immaturity exists in the fact that you think women are selfish enough to keep men from doing everything else.

Answer 19

First of all, "benefitical" isn't a word.  Secondly,  yes, some men are very immature: Cat-calling to women who would never give him the time of day,  hanging out with his sausage-fest of dudes instead of being his wife, and sitting around playing video games, watching p**n instead of giving his wife some great s*x for once, or fixing up the place or spending time with the kids...  (Those guys wonder why their wives have affairs with other women!)  lol.... I've been with some of those unhappy wives and I made them very happy in my single years!  Marriage is for ADULTS.  Men who sit around playing games and hanging out drinking with friends ARE immature and it illustrates how unprepared such men are for the adult world.   Not even daddy can rescue these guys and make them become teenagers again!  So yes, I'd say those attributes are the mark of immaturity.  If you have a wife, be good to her and your kids if you have any.  You're a grown-up, so try to act like it.  Save the catcalls for your dreams, and tell the boys you're going to take your wife out to dinner since she puts up with you.  And YOU are the one who comes out here with "preachy, over-the top"  rants day after day after day.  You haven't been right yet.  As for a man's maturity - that is something that should be beneficial to himself as well as to his partner and others around him.  It's not all about pleasing a woman, and I would hope a real man would be able to act like one instead of a little boy.   But if you like to be childish, don't be surprised if you stay single, or if your honey sleeps with someone else behind YOUR back.  If ya don't treat her right, someone else WILL....As they say, females mature faster than males and a lot of guys prove this to be TRUE.

Answer 20

you missed a few like, poor communicators (like a little kid), sloppy (ditto), no or little pride in their appearance (ditto), stubborn (ditto), have all the answers (like a little kid), inconsiderate (like a little kid), selfish (like a little kid), think farts and other bodily functions are funny (like a little kid), can't do more than one thing at a time (ditto), lazy (ditto) and are obsessive about b*****s - just like a little kid.

All these apply only to homosexual males - obviously.

It's not a question of who these behaviors serve or don't serve - it just is what it is.

Answer 21

Most of the points on your list are a matter of degree, but what you need to understand is that maturity isn't an issue of who benefits and who doesn't.  It's an issue of respect.  If you constantly ignore your significant other in favor of video games and p**n, you're not only a massive loser, you're also being disrespectful of her as a human being.  Catcalling, likewise, is disrespectful.  And while we're on the subject, do you really get so much pleasure out of catcalling that it deserves a spot on your list?  Really?  I thought guys stopped catcalling around age sixteen.

I don't believe that men are any less mature than women, on average.  You, however, are one of the most immature posters I've ever seen.  And a huge f'cking tool to boot.  Congratulations!

Answer 22

You really shouldn't be hurt when women call you immature after all if they didn't call you it they still wouldn't be with you.  The fact that your ideas of "male behaviors" include physical violence and cat calls; this really shows why your so bitter; but the truth is you obviously don't want a women so what does it matter that they don't want you?  

-A mans lack of interest in a serious committed relationship if over 25; I don't consider it immature I just don't consider him.

-For the marriage one see response above

-If they play video games more then they do anything else I am also not interested in him.

-Watching p**n; see video game response.

-Not talking about your feelings especially if its for fear that it will be used against you is just plain immature.  

-Going out with the boys after marriage?  As long as you don't mind her going out with the girls after marriage.  Everyone knows what they are going out for after all.  If she has an loser husband I guess she deserves to consider her options.

-Physical violence "Scary"!  I would take Madea's advice on that one; cast iron skillet and hot grits.

-Cat calls really are annoying and the men that do this are always disgusting, unattractive, losers so not only is it annoying but a waste of time.

I guess I do kind of see those behaviors as immature and so do most mature men.  I also see that guy as a loser not worth a real womens time.  Luckily there are loser women who are willing to allow their low self esteem to be beat down even further by some loser guy.