Salafis what do u say about politics in islam?

Question

@abul harith: i asked islam deal with politics or not. i did not ask for the reasons 4 downfall of islam and if those who say that it was the kuffar who caused our downfall are right. i agree muslims are the main cause 4 the downfall of islaam. they lived a life away frm Allah in luxuary and stuff but my Q is does islam have politics??? thats it. yes or no with reasons pleez.

jaza' kumullahu khayr wa barak allhu feehi.

Answer 1

'Allah has promised those of you who believe and do good deeds that He will most surely make them vicegerent in the earth as He made their ancestors before them, and that He will establish for them their religion, the one which He has chosen for them, and that He will change their present state of fear into peace and security. Let them worship Me Alone and not to commit shirk with Me; and if anyone rejects faith after this, it is they who are the transgressors. (Holy Quran:24:55)

  

Answer 2

From what i have heard, they do not like to interfere in politics.

Answer 3

I would like to congratulate "NotAf2StAn" for that WONDERFUL answer he provided....Its one of the best I've got to see on YA!.....May Allah always guide him.....

HE was absolutely right when he talked about the Al-Saoud family's corruption.....But, I will add that, they have also done much for islam.... I think there are definitely some craps like Prince Turki Al-Faisal, or Prince Bandar, however, there are some good princes also. The Bin Faisal branch is reputed to be "uncorruptible".... Anyway, Allah knows best. The real problem with the Saoud dynasty is that He thinks that if he loses the American's "friendship", then people will rebel. However, what the Saouds FAIL to understand is that till they do not leave the Americans, they Ummah will never be in accord with them(The Saoud).

Politics, in islam, unlike in christianity, is fully integrated. But, the rulers of today, fail to implement the rulings..... Today, Saudi Arabia faces great crisis because the rulers there have failed to implement the shariah to "its full capacity". Besides, on many sectors, they've preferred to rely on traditions. Thats why females were, until very recently, not allowed/discouraged to attend school....WHEREAS ISLAM MAKES THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION VERY CLEAR!! This is only one simple example.

For the Ummah to be what it was, Islam, should be implemented at 100%.....And the rulers SHOULD FEAR ONLY ALLAH!!!!!

Thumbs up for NotAf2StAn 's answer!! Keep it on bro....

Wassalaam!!

Answer 4

There is a book written by Imaam as-Sa'dee called "as-Siyaasah ash-Shar'iyyah" where it details the issue.

"Whatever evil befalls you, it is from your own self" (Soorah an-Nisaa 4:79)

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EDIT:

There is a part of Islaam involving in Politics but it is not for every one to enter. Shaykh al Anjaree has a talk on that issue.

As for the Du'aat, then there are many that call to destruction which the Shaykh had mentioned in his article.

EDIT 2 (NotAf2StAn)

What you said is a contradiction in the Manhaj of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah.

Aal Sa'ood did not rebel against the Ottoman empire. Najd was never under the rulership of the Ottomans. All they had was the Hijaaz which was under control of the Shareef who had raised arms against the Ottomans. Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhaab wrote against raising the arms against the rulers, and this included the Ottamans. But the are in which Aal Sa'ood ruled was not under any rulership or authority. This is well known in the History of the area.

As for rebelling against the government, then the Tahreem of it was reported by a number of the Ulemaa of Ahlus Sunnah. Imaam al Barbaharee mentioned it clearly in his points in Sharh as Sunnah, likewise al Baghawee and Imaam Ahmad in his Usool and other than them.

Al-Laalikaa'ee reported in his I'tiqaad that the one who raises the sword is a Khaarijee. He narrates from al Fudayl, the Taabi'ee that the one who even makes Du'aa against the Sultaan is a Khaarijee. So what will you say about the Salafiyoon now? That they are stupid for following the Sunnah?

Whatever mistakes Aal Sa'ood have, the bottom line is that they are the Hukaam in Saudi Arabia, and Taa'ah to them is Waajib upon those under them and this is from the Usool of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah, whether it is bitter to you or not.

If you want to follow the way of Ahlus Sunnah, take all of it. Not just what your emotions agree with.

Seriously, reading what you said is disgusting. "hired fake salafi Ulemaa"? Are you serious? You mean Shaykh ibn Baaz and Ibn Uthaymeen and al-Albaanee and Shaykh Muqbil and all of these Kibaar al Ulemaa were fake just because they praised Aal Sa'ood for their efforts in this deen (such as maintaining the Masaajid and printing of the Qur'aans)?

No this is not from the Manhaj of Ahlus Sunnah. And no the prisons are not filled with those who "speak the truth". That's a cop out statement. It reeks of what the little khaarijee children cry about with no evidences.

What I dont like are young kids who learn a page or two about Islaam and all of a sudden they're talking about the Kibaar al Ulemaa and saying they're hypocrites. But then would you say al Fudayl bin 'Iyyad was a hypocrite? Or al-hasan al basree? Or would you say that about Imaam Ahmad? Or Al Barbahaaree? Or al Laalikaa'ee? Or Ibn Taymiyyah?

Fear Allaah and be mindful of your speech.

Answer 5

Salafis are all about dictatorship. They want a governer like Yazid ibn Muawiyah (LA).

Answer 6

Interesting question.

I like a lot of things about Salafis.They are always trying to keep Islam free of Shirk and helping Muslims to practice pure monotheism.Their explanation of everything is so perfect and logical.

But when it comes to politics, i just can not understand them.I believe, the Salafi movement is great... but its terribly effected by Al-saud family.They are forcing the Salafis to keep their practice on personal levels only.Coz al-saud family and all the leaders in Middle east fear the fact that one day they will loose their power.Therefore they never want the Ummah to be united under one Khalifah.I believe they hired some fake salafi Ulemas who always speak for them.Whoever speaks against the governtment they will takfir on them and call them kafir.I dont consider these people to be real Salafi.They are only hypocrits.

Real salafis will never go against Quran and Sunnah.. and that is to speak agaisnt the hypocrite Governtment.I have heard many lame excuses from some salafis about that.. like its haram to rebel against a government blah blah etc. I ask them, If it was really haram then why did ur own government rebeled against the ottomon empire? They joined the Kufr and fought against an Islamic Government.The Birth of the State of Saudi Arabia coincided with the destruction of the Dar al-Islam which had been established by Prophet Muhammad [SAW].

So u see, their logic is just lame and full of hypocrisy. and we all know saudi prisons are full of Sheikhs and Imams who are not afraid to speak the truth.