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Serious Question Here... How many of you don't believe We were told the Truth about 9/11?

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Yeah I know this is a loaded question, but to me some things just don't add up. I'm very interested in hearing what others think about it.

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Independent and Proud

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  1. I used to think the invasion of Iraq was justified. I watched the news and saw the towers come down, I watched the build up to the Iraq war on the news channels. I saw Colin Powell sell the war to the world, "nuclear weapons and mobile nuke facilites", I saw the Bush admin echo his every word and then some and I actually believed every word and thought go in there and kick Saddam's asss and get it done.

    Then three years ago I bought a PC and the rest is history. You find out things for yourself that the media obviously left out and hey presto, reality slaps you in the face. 9/11 was the most obvious inside job in the history of the world and anyone with a PC that doesn't believe so is a complete and utter moron.

    Also have you noticed that some of the people that disagree with you don't even understand the simplest part of your statement, Independent and Proud? They know nothing these people. It is time we started ignoring these fools until they wake up and realise what is going on themselves but I won't hold my breath. Some people are just too retarded. If they haven't already sussed it out I don't think that they ever will.


  2. I think we were...either they strecthed the truth or they hid things from us.There has always been alot of speculation about that subject.

  3. Not me, not now.  I did believe it before I became informed.  Very few people are gullible enough to buy the fairy tale once informed.  The problem is people are not informed because the mainstream media is complicit in the cover-up.  Members of the government who were not involved have either been honestly deceived or scared into silence.

    It should have been a red flag to people that President Bush first appointed Henry Kissinger to chair the 9-11 Commission.  That was telling.  He was forced to resign, although the mainstream media didn't report it that way.

  4. I know we weren't

  5. I think we were.

  6. It is blatantly obviously that we were not told the truth.

    The posters who believe the 9/11 Commission investigation was a "real" investigation have some serious reading to do.

    There is compelling evidence for the case that people in the government either intentionally allowed the attacks to happen, and/or were involved..  See, for example:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...

    http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/dece...

    Many people buy the obvious lies because they mistakenly trust the main stream media.  The media was complicit in the cover-up from day one.  Their role was, and is, to spread government propaganda and paint everyone questioning it as some kind of underclass moron.  The propaganda machine sprung into action when the country was in a state of shock and grief, ripe for brainwashing.

    http://www.archive.org/details/snowshoef...

    http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?...

    http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/200...

    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0413...

    The main stream media is owned and controlled by a small hand-full of giant conglomerates. Those conglomerates and their major shareholders own other holdings that profit from Middle East war and the war on terror. Just research General Electric, for example. There is cross-over between media ownership and boards of directors with membership in the Council on Foreign Relations and other globalist interests that control our foreign policy. They have a vested interest in keeping the truth about 9/11 and the Iraq war from the people. We must become more media-wise so was stop allowing the profiteers to feed us their version of reality upon which we make electoral decisions and decisions to support war. Start here:

    General Main Stream Media

    http://www.globalissues.org/HumanRights/...

    Focus on US media

    http://www.globalissues.org/HumanRights/...

    The government would not have been permitted to exploit 9/11 if the media had been filling the role that many people mistakenly believe it fills.  The corporate main stream media is the greatest threat to democracy we have ever faced.  If we fail to recognize that, we are going down.

  7. I can't believe there are really people who either

    A: hate George Bush so much they believe he would do this

    or B:  love conspiracy theories so much they would invest time in this

    If you want a real conspiracy, check out how much we knew about Japan's plans before Pearl Harbor.  Don't get me wrong, no one knew it would be what it was, but we weren't completely caught off guard either.  Is it that it was so long ago and crazy libs don't know their history, or is it because FDR was a democrat?

  8. No, I do not believe the official tale.

    DK, In response to: "If you continue to believe that "some things just don't add up," then it is incumbent upon you to detail what the 9/11 Commission didn't get right and how it matters to change their conclusions."

    On behalf of architects, engineers, truthers, skeptics, marines, firefighters, family members and "conspiracy theorists" everywhere who are simply calling for an independent investigation, let me inform you that we have done that very thing.

    Please read these 14-points of agreement with the NIST study, as published in a peer-reviewed, open-source civil engineering journal. If you have the answers to any of the questions presented therein, I'm sure the engineering community would be enthralled to hear your hypotheses.

    http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/conten...

  9. I believe the 9/11 Commission thoroughly investigated the terrorist attacks plotted and executed by Al Qaeda, and reported all the relevant facts and findings to the American people as was their charge.

    If you continue to believe that "some things just don't add up," then it is incumbent upon you to detail what the 9/11 Commission didn't get right and how it matters to change their conclusions.

    "Independent and proud" is just a slogan. It does not substitute for rational analysis of the facts and logical conclusions drawn therefrom.

  10. The moment I heard about that 'coincidental' hijacking exercise blamed for downing the entire US air defence system - exact same day, same time, same scenario - I knew there either had to be a very high level leak, or complicity... but Oops!, that wasn't worth investigating was it?  Does that add up?

    That was the moment the 'official version' started to fall apart - then Condi Rice made her excuse that no-one envisaged this scenario unfolding... when they were actually role playing that same scenario the very same day!! ... so now I'm getting sceptical... I don't like obvious lies. Some people seem to swallow them willingly.

    Would anyone also expect me to accept that the USAF could take on the combined might of the Russian and Chinese air forces, IFF thousands of hostile aircraft at the same time... and combat them - but they couldn't deal with a tiny number of airliners... get real, how completely absurd is that (and they were supposed to be practising this exact scenario for Gods sake!)... it took them 80 minutes to scramble when every other alert in modern history had been dealt with in minutes... you could have got a biplane up quicker powered by an elastic band!

    The WTC7 demolition wasn't worth serious investigation either, nor was the OBVIOUS disparity between the Pentagon attack and the WTC attacks... two aircraft produce massive explosions and bring down enormous buildings - the other apparently goes off like a damp f**t in comparison, without even scorching the Pentagon grass... really! - why? - can anyone explain?

    The same thing happened on 7/7... this is also public knowledge: an EXACT same exercise (run by a company with Guiliani on the board of directors!), exact same stations, same times, same scenarios AGAIN.. and some people want to attribute it to coincidence? Laughable - how many single digit IQ people are out there who'll believe whatever they are told despite THE FACTS? Check it out - try some research into Peter Power, because the odds of two attacks liks 911 and 7/7 are billions to one... does that one add up?

    Pretty much everyone started off accepting the official 911 story but more and more people have come to realise it is a fraud... so all 911 truthers are converts and we are in a big majority in the rest of the world, in New York - I suspect within the USA now as well.

    I think this goes some way to explaining why senior ex intelligence, FBI, CIA, US generals, NSA, State Department people, the ex-German foreign minister (to whom their secret service report), ex UK ministers all believe Bush and his cronies were responsible for 911... and have said so publicly.

    So do I have an axe to grind politically?  No, I too am ex-military and a former intelligence analyst... I have to say I am angry the way people have been manipulated and the final proof is in the farcical 911 report - look at the way none of these questions was answered... why spend a fraction on that compared to investigating Clinton's 'cigar' when at the same time saying 911 was a monumentally important event... ?

    As you said so rightly, 'it doesn't add up', does it...

  11. I think we were as well. Can you give an example of what you mean if you do not think we were? I don't even think Mr. Dobbs would agree with your question or state of mind so you can scratch the "proud" out.

  12. Darlin with politics there is no truth.....

  13. I DON'T believe we were told the Truth.

    The claws are all out on this question.  lol.

    I will never understand why people are so threatened by others asking questions.  And no you should NOT be ashamed of yourself.  It is our duty as good American citizens to be watchful of our own government.  And with 9/11 they have given us plenty to question... lots of red flags!

    One thing that I cannot get past is the LACK of Investigation.  Several of the alleged hijackers have been found alive... as reported by the BBC.  And the FBI can't link Osama bin Laden to the attacks.  Forget the so-called confession tape of Osama it's been proven fake!  If the FBI was truly interested in finding those who were behind 9/11 than they would have changed that hijacker's list!

    And here's another thing.  There WERE secondary explosions.  In fact, I heard them myself on live TV!  The reporters there on the scene spoke of them as they ran away with the sounds of explosions heard in the background.  There are numerous recordings of firefighters, paramedics and police officers reporting on hearing those explosions.  It's INSANE to NOT believe there were secondary explosions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBKulgWoV...

    The video above is a live recording of 9/11 and it's after the planes hit the buildings and before they fell.  NYFD Chief of Safety for NYC says that they lost several of their firefighters to the secondary explosions in the buildings.  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAkF7E2n...  Firefighters reporting "secondary explosions"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdc0OsLN_...  NYC cop describing "secondary explosions"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TK...  William Rodriguez (the last person out of the wtc) on the secondary explosions.

    Also there's a few websites that I recommend to anyone who wants to research for themselves.

    Here's a website that addresses many of the 9/11 questions and tries to debunk the silly theories (including the "official version") and focus on real facts.  

    http://www.911research.wtc7.net/

    And here's another website that presents the physical aspects of the 9/11 attacks and the questions that many professionals are raising yet to be addressed.  Over 400 Architects and Engineers for 911 truth have petitioned Congress for a truly independent investigation.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

    Listed are hundreds of professionals who question the official 911 story.  These professionals consist of Pilots and Aviation Professionals,  Physics Professors/ & other professors, Senior Military , Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, Government Officials, Engineers, Architects, Media Professionals.  Also 911 Survivors and Family Members.

    http://patriotsquestion911.com/

  14. ok its was 100% percent planned by george bush.. he needed a reason to got to iraq and take there oil. so he decided to bomd his own country to make money. dont beleive watch loose change on youtube its 2 hrs but worth it

  15. I don't believe this is still being tossed around.

  16. A vast majority of the United States population have intimated that they do not in fact.."Buy" the official spin..

  17. There are a whole bunch of idiots out there that believe that Loose Change garbage.... likely because they themselves have a few screws loose and aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer either.... There are plenty of real threats form people that would have power over this country to worry about... the chief among them is the threat of an Obama presidency....

  18. The only people spreading lies about 9/11 are you "truthers."   You've seen too many episodes of the x-files.    I love your criteria for judging reliability:  if it comes from the mainstream press, then it's a lie; if it comes from an anonymous source on the internet, then it must be true.  You guys take whacko to a whole new level.

  19. we were told the truth.  it would be much too hard to fake something like that and keep it under wraps.  there is an article in popular mechanics that tell from an engineering standpoint how everything went down.  it also answers tech questions (e.g. why the buildings collapsed when steel doesnt melt at the temps experienced. --- it doesnt melt but it does bend enough to crack the concrete structure.)  Hope this helps, you really need to research it from credible sources to see for yourself.

  20. i think we were told the truth

    and i think you should be ashamed to even post this question.

  21. Doesn't make sense to me. It's more about what hasn't happened since 9/11 that I find interesting.

    It would be easy in terrorist terms to sneak a crate of say stinger missles across our "virtually" defended Mexican border. Think of the damage they could do, and how easy it would be for them. Airport security harrasses me, but planes are still this vulnerable. This is but just one example. If our leaders are so insistant on 'protecting' us, then why do they allow our Mexican border to be crossed at will?

    I do realize that terrorist attacks have happened elsewhere in the world. Seeing that nothing has happened here since we started our global conquest just defies logic.  

    I think it was a means (inside job)to get the public support for starting their(world bank led) global conquest, and setting up a one world government.

  22. Above post....I would like to see who funds these studies that rationalize how towers implode on themselves.

    What is the probabilty that Tower 1 and 2 will fall the same exact way and tower 7...never in the history of mankind

    I was there on at ground zero the day of the false flag operation and many and i mean Many people heard explosions.  At first we thought it was possibly gas lines.....but it was not because firefighters and cops coming out the buildings themselves have state that there were explosions on the underground level and it was no gas leak

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