Shia Users: questions about fabricated Hadith e Kassa.?

Question

I have found some contradictions in that Hadith.

1. According to Quran 33:32-33:33, Wives of the Prophet PBUH are his Ahl-e Bait i.e. Family members. But that Hadith exclude them from Ahl-e Bait.

2. According to Quran, Wasila/Tawassal to Allah is Salah/Prayer and Sabr/patience. But that Hadith says that, that Hadith is a Tawassal?

2:153 O YOU who have attained to faith! Seek aid in steadfast patience and prayer: for, behold, God is with those who are patient in adversity.

3. Can a Hadith benefit me like Allah? Because it is stated in that fabricated Hadith that who so ever reads this Hadith his all wishes will be fulfilled. Is that Hadith God?

Answer 1

in your opinion, love and respect for the ahl-e-bayt aren't necessary parts of the faith? there was the family of our prophet (pbuh) and there were those in that family who were infallible, this hadith shows who the infallible were.

you cannot claim to be a good muslim and pooh pooh the ahl e bait. is not loving the prophet good? isnt loving his family good? does the quran say that Salah/Prayer and Sabr/patience are the ONLY tawassal. does love for the prophet & his family mean nothing to you?

then why are we asked to send durud and why are the ahl-e-bait a part of the durud.

do you believe in those hadith that the devil runs away from umar, or in those hadith where umar lops of the head of an unarmed jew and our prophet(pbuh) praises him for it?

Answer 2

lol, you guys have no respect for Allah's favourite month do you?

either u fear Allah or u dont, what will it be?

u guys are too addicted to fitna, u cant go an hour without talking negative about other Muslims, honestly i dont see whats the point in u fasting, since i saw some ur posts earlier, and they were complete kuffir, why are u fasting? why do wear a hijab? why call urself a Muslim? if ur just gonna continue all ur c**p, even in Allah favourite month! u people have no shame and are too blind to realise it

Answer 3

Actually shias fabricated all the stories which can support their self made concept of imamat ,so no wonder they have fabricated this thing to support that hadith.

Plz can u give me the reference of your third point ,that who so ever----------------------------?

EDIT : @ Asker

we r in the same situation with shias what we face with Christians

It doesn't matter to them how much we believe in Jesus(AS) as a prophet ,they will keep blaming muslims ,for not believing in Jesus(as),unless we follow them and agreed on the the shirk ,and call Jesus (AS) as "SON OF GOD"

So the same here with shias ,they won't be happy from muslims unless we commit shirk and call Ali (RA) for help .,believe in self made  12 Imam & and associate them as partner of Allah (swt)

and curse caliphs of islam and wives of Mohammad (saw).

Answer 4

No Shia will answer it correctly.

The Hadith of The Cloak (Arabic: حديث الكساء Hadith-e-Kisa) refers to the Ahl al-Kisa. The hadith is an account of an incident where the Islamic prophet Muhammad gathered Hassan ibn Ali, Husayn ibn Ali, Ali and Fatimah under his cloak. This is mentioned in several hadiths, including Sahih Muslim, where Muhammad is quoted as saying the phrase Ahl al-Bayt (meaning Muhammad's Household or, literally, people of the house) from the second part of verse 33:33 of the Qur'an, the verse called "Ayat al-Tathir" or "the verse of purification".

This is a central hadith in terms of the differences between s**+'ite and Sunni Muslims (along with few more hadiths and Verses in the Qur'an) as it is the foundation for the s**+'i claim that Governorship of Muslims should reside only with the direct line of Muhammad through Fatimah and Ali, as well as being the basis for their further claims that certain of the descendants of Muhammad are infallible: points on which Sunni Muslims strongly disagree. They claim that the term has a broader meaning that does not invest any such authority in Muhammad's family exclusively and that it is possible for any right-living person of faith to attain such spiritual purity or authority.

Sunni Scholars hold that the wives of Muhammad were included in the second part of the verse 33:33, since they are addressed in the beginning of verse 33:33. Sunnis reject the notion that the end of this verse would be a stand-alone blessing, meant exclusively for Muhammad, Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain, as they have in mind the context of the verse as a whole and the one preceding it.

Answer 5

THE COMPANIONS OF KISA

May Allah curse the prejudice, jealousy and enemity of Ahle Bayt (a.s.), as no indisputable fact of Islam remained certain, and at every place the faithfuls of the government created doubts – And who is ignorant of it that, Aayat-e-Tat-heer, is in the glory of the pure Ahle Bayt (a.s.), and by Ahle Bayt it means the five noble souls – But in the olden and modern times such persons are, by all means born whose function is to suspect in realities and to devote the certainties of Islam at the alter of doubts – They wanted to take the help the matter of before and after part of the verse and connect it to the wives of the Prophet (s.a.w.a), and in the meantime have confessed this also that, the circle of Ahle Bayt (a.s.) is far more expansive than wives, and in it there is also a place for Hazrat Ali, Janab-e-Fatemah, Hasan and Husayn (a.s.). As after which such a group was born which eliminated this possibility too, and in his crude ideas established the proofs that the application of Ahle Bayt cannot be to the infallible, by it is meant only the wives of the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a) – And prepared one or two narrations also in which the narrators have tried to relate the Ahle Bayt to wives, and have overlooked all those Traditions against this, in which a complete explanation or Ahle Bayt was present, and the names of the infallible were quoted, and after which there was no place for doubt and suspicion, on the contrary stopping Umme Salamah itself was a proof that, wives are not a part of it – Anyway, it is the impertinence of times, as the wife of the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a), who tried to enter was stopped by the Messenger (s.a.w.a), and the mark or sign of the one who was not even present at this moment, was made a participant of the verse from the unknown.

Now, for a study, the references of Ahmad ibne Hambal and his contemporary or the later authentic scholars of Ahle Sunnat are being quoted, who have mentioned Hazrat Ali, Fatemah, Hasan, Husayn (a.s.) name by name and the revelation of the verse in their glory and after which there remains no place for any doubt or refutation:

Hafiz Abu Dawood al Teyasi Sulayman ibne Dawood ibne Jaroodal Basri, author of the book Musnad vol.8 page 274, published Hyderabad.

Allamah Hafiz Abu Abdullah Ahmad ibne Mohammad Ibne Hambal Shaybani, author of Musnad, vol 1, page 331, published at Cairo

Hafiz Mohammad ibne Eisa Tirmizi, author of Sahih Tirmizi, as traced by ibne Hajar.

Hafiz Mohammad ibne Usman ibne Abi Shayba Kufi, author of Musnad, ref. of Falakun Najaat, page 43.

Allamah Abu Abdir Rehman Ahmad ibne Sho’aybun Nisaai, author of Khasaais, p.4.

Hafiz Mohammad ibne Jurayr Tabari, author of Tafseer, vol.22, p.5. printed in Egypt.

Hafiz Abdur Rehman ibne Abi Hatim Mohammadar Razi, ref. of Falakun Najaat.

Sulayman ibne Ahmad ibne Ayyub Tabrani, author of M’ojam, ref. of Sawaaiq.

Allamah Jasaas. Author of Ehkamul Qur’an.

10. Hafiz Hakim Abu Abdillah Mohammad ibne Abdullah Neshapoori, athor of Mustadrak.

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Answer 6

Another version of the "Tradition of Cloak" is written in Sahih al-Tirmidhi, which is narrated in the authority of Umar Ibn Abi Salama, the son of Umm Salama (another wife of Prophet), which is as follows:

The verse "Verily Allah intends to ... (33:33)" was revealed to the Prophet (PBUH&HF) in the house of Umm Salama. Upon that, the Prophet gathered Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain, and covered them with a cloak, and he also covered Ali who was behind him. Then the Prophet said: "O' Allah! These are the Members of my House (Ahlul-Bayt). Keep them away from every impurity and purify them with a perfect purification." Umm Salama (the wife of Prophet) asked: "Am I also included among them O Apostle of Allah?" the Prophet replied: "You remain in your position and you are toward a good ending."

One of the 6 sahih hadith books of Ahlil Sunnah: Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, pp 351,663

Ahmad, al-Nisa'i, Muhibbuddin, and al-Haythami have reported (the wording being of Ahmad's Musnad):

'Amr Ibn Maimoon said: "I was with Ibn Abbas when nine persons came to him and said: 'Ibn Abbas! Either come out with us or provide us privacy.' He said: 'I shall go out with you.' In those days the eyes of Ibn Abbas were all right and he could see. They had mutual conversation and I am not aware as to what they talked about. After some time Ibn Abbas returned to us. He was then shaking off his dress saying: 'Fie be upon them! They are talking about the man who enjoys ten excellences.' [Later in the narration Ibn Abbas details the virtues of the Imam till he says:] 'The Holy Prophet spread his cloak upon Ali, al-Hasan and al-Husain and said: O People of the Prophet's House! Allah intends to keep you pure from all sorts of uncleanness and blemish and to purify you with a thorough purification.'"

Sunni references:

Musnad, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, p331 (First edition) al-Riyadh al-Nadhirah, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, v2, p269

Narrated Sa'd Ibn Abi Waqqas:

...And when the verse 3:61 was revealed, the Prophet called Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain. Then the Prophet said: "O Lord! These are my family members (Ahli)."

Sunni references:

Sahih Muslim, Chapter of virtues of companions, section of virtues of Ali, 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, Arabic version, v4, p1871, the end of tradition #32.

Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, p654

Narrated Yazid Ibn Hayyan:

We went to Zaid Ibn Arqam and said to him: You have found goodness (for you had the honor) to live in the company of the Prophet (PBUH&HF) and offered prayer behind him, and the rest of the Hadith is the same (as 3 traditions before) but the Prophet said: "Behold, for I am leaving amongst you two weighty things, one of them is the Book of Allah...", and in this (Hadith) these words are also found: We said: "Who are his Ahlul-Bayt (that the Prophet was referring to)? Are they his wives?" Thereupon Zaid said: "No, by Allah! A woman lives with a man (as his wife) for a while; he then divorces her and she goes back to her parents and her people. The Ahlul-Bayt of the Prophet are his lineage and his descendants (those who come from his blood) for whom the acceptance of charity (Sadaqah) is prohibited."

Sahih Muslim, Chapter of virtues of companions, section of the virtues of Ali, 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, Arabic version, v4, p1874, Tradition #37

For the English version of Sahih Muslim, please see Chapter CMXCVI,

Tradition #5923

Answer 7

Haifa, You've only had about 14 answers, you can't tell people what to do with their questions, you don't exactly own the religion.