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Shia? only real answers please?

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this has nothing to do with ramadan but this is the only muslim board on here it seems.. i honestly want to know about shia, i live with them (my husband's inlaws, we are not) and sometimes i just dont get it. when its so clear that so much of what they follow is a complete innovation from original islam before the death of rasool Allah saws, why do so many people just turn down a different path?

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  1. الشيعة  ÃƒÂ™Ã‚ˆÃ˜Â§Ã™Â„سنة  ÃƒÂ˜Ã‚¬Ã™Â…يعهم مسلمون  ÃƒÂ™Ã‚ˆÃ™Â„ا يجب التفرقة بينهم لاننه جميعا اسلام ونتبع الله سبحانه وتعالى)


  2. Shia is not muslim they are Kafir and their end is to Jahannam

    Abu Hatith explained very well

  3. It really means that you do not know ISLAM (SHIA or SUNNI)

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

  4. What on earth are you talking about? You think you follow the perfect Sunnah? get over yourself. You don't know jack sh*t about Islam so who the heck are you to judge. Go read a book for once in your life miss biddah.

  5. Allah al mighty

    very good man you did it .

    Mutt ah is prostitution good

    We do not follow Quran very very good

    We worship Ali and his ... what ever

    we dont believe  that  so please shut your mouth  and please do not lie

    I working on muttah marriage system so i'll not comment on it I'm curious about it and Quran is the word of good which tell people truth and oh! yes teacher knows better so Our leaders Know better than us  

    that lies against shia people give you relief

    then let me tell you one thing our Imam are your Imam in every single time there is a Man chosen from God  

  6. Imaam adh-Dhahabee said in his Siyaar A’laam an-Nubalaa (5/390):

    قال عيسى بن يونس جاءت الرافضة زيدا فقالوا تبرأ من أبي بكر وعمر حتى ننصرك قال بل أتولاهما قالوا إذا نرفضك فمن ثم قيل لهم الرافضة

    ((‘Eesaa bin Yoonus said: The Raafidah came to Zayd and said to him, “Free yourself from Abee Bakr and ‘Umar so that we can aid you” he said, “Rather I will give allegience to them” they said, “Then we reject you” so then it was said to them, “ar-Raafidah” (the rejectors)))

    Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah mentioned in his Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (4/435):

    قيل للإمام أحمد‏:‏ من الرافضي‏؟‏ قال‏:‏ الذي يسب أبا بكر وعمر‏.‏ وبهذا سميت الرافضة، فإنهم رفضوا زيد بن علي لما تولى الخليفتين أبا بكر وعمر، لبغضهم لهما، فالمبغض لهما هو الرافضي، وقيل‏:‏ إنما سموا رافضة لرفضهم أبا بكر وعمر

    ((It was said to Imaam Ahmad: “Who is the Raafidhee?” He said: “Those who insult Abaa Bakr and ‘Umar.And by this they were named the Raafidah, for they rejected Zayd bin ‘Alee when he gave allegiance to the two Khaleefah’s Abaa Bakr and ‘Umar, because of their hatred for them. And the one who hates them is the Raafidhee.” And they were named as the Raafidhah because of their rejection of Abaa Bakr and ‘Umar.))

    He then said:

    وأصل الرفض من المنافقين الزنادقة، فإنه ابتدعه ابن سبأ الزنديق

    ((And the foundation of rejection is from the hypocrites and the herectics, for they followed the innovation of the heretic Ibn Saba’))

    Ibn Hajar al-Haythamee mentioned in his Majma’ az-Zawaa’id (10/22) the narration of Ibn ‘Abbaas which was reported by at-Tabaraanee with a Hasan chain of narration that the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said:

    يا علي سيكون في أمتي قوم ينتحلون حب أهل البيت، لهم نبز يسمون الرافضة، قاتلوهم فإنهم مشركون

    ((O ‘Alee, there will be in my Ummah a group of people who will go beyond bounds in love of my family, they will have an insulting name, they will be known as the Raafidah. Fight them, for they are polytheists))

    Ibn Hajar al-Haythamee also metioned in his Majma’ az-Zawaa’id (2/10) with a good chain of narration that ‘Aasim bin Bahdalah said:

    قلت للحسن بن علي‏:‏ الشيعة يزعمون أن علياً يرجع‏؟‏ قال‏:‏ كذب أولئك الكذابون، لو علمنا ذلك ما تزوج نساؤه، ولا قسمنا ميراثه

    ((I said to ‘al-Hasan bin ‘Alee: “The Shee’ah claim that ‘Alee will return”, he said: “Those liars have lied. For if we had known that, his women would not have married and we would not have divided his inheritence))

    روى ابن بطة في الإبانة الكبرى باب ذكر افتراق الأمم في دينهم، و على كم تفترق الأمة من حديث أبو علي بن إسماعيل بن العباس الوراق ، قال حدثنا الحسن بن محمد بن الصباح الزعفراني ، قال حدثنا شبابة ، قال حدثنا سوادة بن سلمة أن عبد الله بن قيس رضي الله عنه قال اجتمع عند علي رضي الله عنه جاثليتو النصارى و رأس الجالوت كبير علماء اليهود فقال الرأس: تجادلون على كم افترقت اليهود؟ قال: على إحدى و سبعين فرقة.

    فقال علي رضي الله عنه: “لتفترقن هذه الأمة على مثل ذلك، و أضلها فرقة و شرها: الداعية إلينا!! ( أهل البيت ) آية ذلك أنهم يشتمون أبا بكر و عمر رضي الله عنهما.”

    Ibn Battah reported in his al-Ibaanah al Kubraa, in the chapter: Mentioning the sections of the Nations in their religion and upon how many sects will the Ummah split into, from the Hadeeth of Abee ‘Alee bin Ismaa’eel bin al-Abbaas al-Warraaq who said: al-Hassan bin Muhammad bin as-Sabaah az-Za’faraanee narrated to me that Shabbaabah said, that Sawaadah bin Salamah said that ‘Abdullaah bin Qays (رضي الله عنه)said:

    ((A group of Christians came to ‘Alee (رضي الله عنه)and at the head of them was a major scholar of the Jews. So the leader said: “You debate about how many groups the Jews split into?” He said: “Into seventy one sects”. And ‘Alee (رضي الله عنه)said: “And this Ummah will split into similar to that, and the most deviated and evil sect of them: the ones who call to us (Ahlul Bayt), and a sign of them is that they insult Abaa Bakr and ‘Umar رضي الله عنهما” ))

    و أبو علي بن العباس الوراق روى عنه الدارقطني و وثقه و قال الذهبي عنه: المحدث الإمام الحجة، و ذكره يوسف بن عمر القواس في جملة شيوخه الثقات

    And as for Aboo ‘Alee bin al-’Abbaas al-Warraaq, then ad-Daaruqutnee reported from him and considered him reliable. And adh-Dhahabee said about him: ((The Scholars of Hadeeth, the Imaam, the Proof)) and Yoosuf bin ‘Amr al-Qawwaas mentioned him from the reliable scholars.

    Look to Taareekh Baghdaad (6/300) of al-Khateeb al Baghdaadee and al-Muntadhim (6/27 8) of Ibnul Jawzee and Siyaar A’laam an-Nubalaa (15/74) of adh-Dhahabee.

    And al-Hassan bin Muhammad bin as-Sabaah az-Za’faraanee is Reliable. See Tahdheeb at-Tahdheeb (2/31 8) and at-Taqreeb (1/170) of Ibn Hajar al ‘Asqalaanee.

  7. The reality is that most Shee'ah tend to just follow what their families and scholars tell them.

    Their religion tends to breed that.  They don't look into things.  If you even look in their books like al-Kafi, you won't even find a complete chain of narration for any of their hadeeth.  Thus their movement is a product of blind following.

  8. Real mess

  9. Like what, like loving the family prophet (as), like comamerating Al-Hussain, like not following the pigs Muawiya and his son Yazid, or like praising Muawiya and calling him calipha.  

  10. Shias worship Family of Ali ibn-e Abi Talib. So, what ever they do, would be out of track of real Islam which was preached by Prophet Mohammad PBUH.

    1. They consider Hazrat Ali to be the Wali i.e. descendant, companion, associate,lord of Allah.

    The Arabic-English Dictionary of the University of Damascus lists among the various meaning for wali:

    "Legal guardian. A friend or protector. Someone who is supposed to look out for your interest. Guardian, curator, custodian, keeper, caretaker, patron, sponsor, supporter, protector, defender, friend, associate, companion, saint, holy man, lord, chief, master, owner, proprietor, holder, possessor".

    2.Shia worship Hazrat Ali R.A. and his decendents.

    3.Shias have legalized prostituion (Mutah)

    4.Shias curse the companions of prophet Muhammad and his wives.

    5.Shias believe the Quran is incomplete and the real quran is with their 12th imam who is hiding in a cave.(lmaooo)

    6.Shias do not follow Quran. They claim that Quran is pretty hard to understand and only their Imams could understand it therefore it is not possible for the follower to follow Quran. On the other hand, Allah told in Quran that He made it easy to understand.

    Allah has promised that Quran has been made easy to understand. The following verse is repeated 4 times in Surah Qamar (54:17, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40)

    And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?

    وَلَقَدْ يَسَّرْنَا الْقُرْآنَ لِلذِّكْرِ فَهَلْ مِن مُّدَّكِرٍ

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