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Shia rafidah do you curse or not?

by Guest21215  |  earlier

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im getting confused some rafidah over here claim they only curse Muaawyiah (ra) while others curse all the companions (ra).

are rafidah confused or is it some kind of sophisticated taqyyiah?

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  1. Yes for sure they curse all sahaba ,They think we forgot the questions asked by shias in which they clearly call them iblees and even worse


  2. they just lie lie and lie! you'll never get an answer from them!

    however you may ask mary, that lil idiot is still kid and she is not expert in lying! she'll tell you their real s**+ty beliefs unless FTL warns her via email!

  3. ok....fadallah is an ayatallah - and hes my marja and he said i cant curse the sahaba

    as for muawyiah and yazid there a diff case- yes im allowed but my family dosnt do it anyway

    heres the link- sorry its in arabic

    http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog/slideshow...

    and btw taqyiah is only practised wen our life is in danger- and on y/a it isnt so it will be haram for us to lie

    edit- well thats what my parents told me about taqyiah- but ill read about it just in case...may i ask you what books you have read this from?

    and as for mutah- i dont know anything about it so im not going to comment

  4. Yes you can see How are Raafidhas(Shias) are not Muslims they insult sahabas like other anti-islam

    so their religion shiaism command them to insult and curse the sahabas

    the most hated sahabas by shias are Abu Baker(ra) Omar(ra) Mua'awiya(ra) Uthman(ra) and wives of the prophet Aisha(ra) and Hafsa(ra)

    for who said they can't use taqqiya except if they are in danger it's a big fat lie they use taqqiya to hide their filth beliefs like cursing and insulting sahaba infront of Muslims if she want me to bring it from their books i don't mind that !

    for more

    this verses on shias

    Allah warned us from shias

    {إن الذين فرقوا دينهم وكانوا شيعا لست منهم في شيء إنما أمرهم إلى الله ثم ينبئهم بما كانوا يفعلون} [سورة الأنعام الآية 159] ...

    “As for those who divide their religion and break up into shias, you have no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.” (Quran, 6:159)

    [9:68] Allah hath promised the Hypocrites men and women, and the rejecters, of Faith, the fire of h**l: therein shall they dwell: sufficient is it for them: for them is the curse of Allah, and an enduring punishment.

    [9:63] Know they not that for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, is the Fire of h**l?. Wherein they shall dwell. That is the supreme disgrace.

    [9:35] On the Day when heat will be produced out of that (wealth) in the fire of h**l, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, "This is the (treasure) which ye buried for yourselves: taste ye, then, the (treasures) ye buried!"

    [52:13] That Day shall they be thrust down to the Fire of h**l, irresistibly.

  5. ur only suposed to curse muawaya and yazid :)

    edit - lol i also curse other compainions :P

    but .. ur not suposed to but still .... erm

    oh and btw i even asked a q about this b4 , y do u accuse shia of using taqqiya on y/a ? y/a isnt a life or death situation.. so we cant possibly be using taqqiya :)

  6. Alhamdulillah don't be confused brother, we believe that Ali was after the prophet, but we knowledge that Ali and all the shia of the time paid alliance to Abu Baker and Umar so we must do the same, but we are better versed in our history then our sunni brothers, and we do not find talking about or debating the mistakes they did as taboo, thier is nothing in the Quran that says we shouldn't.

    But Muawiya is a different story, he was a hypocrite, so was his son and all of Bani Umaya thier history is stained with the blood of Muslims, Sahab and the family of the prophet. But we still find people trying to praise Muawiya and Yazid, and that is an insult to Islam, and what Islam stands for Peace and Justice right? So were is the justice in accepting any tyrant to be your leader? So i guess the American people should support BUSH, after all he is the leader, be it just or a tyrant.

    Now did you know that a hypocrite is worse then a Kaffer in the eyes of Allah?

    Yes they are shia, but ignorant ones, but i still consider them Muslims, their is a reward and punishment for everything, even if you curse Allah ( istghfurallah million times) out of anger for example sharia has a punishment or paying Kafara (penalty), but it does not make him Kaffer. So this holding on something and asking zillion questions about it everyday the same why shia curse sahaba and calling them kaffer for that, is out of the question, for they are men not Gods.

    Brother even if they are aware their is still a penalty it does not make them Kaffer, and i know i have been here long enough to know who started all this,and i can tell you it is out of anger, did you know the shia have a day to pray for Yazid and his followers. When you want to look up shia go to shia sites not anti-shia sites, you are doing like the christians use to do in R&S, they would go to an anti-islam site and ask questions about Islam, do you know how dumb they sounded to us, well you sound the same, when you say we worship Ali, and we think Ali should have been prophet, and we agree with prostitution, after a while when the shia heard this for a year, they started curseing Sahab out of anger, but they are still wrong, but they are not wrong about Muawiya and Yazid may curse of Allah his angels and all men be on him till the day of truth.

    Edit: Brother sending salam on anyone is not haram, so how can peace be upon you be shriek, so when you tell me ,peace be upon me is that shriek? Any way we say Salat on Muhammad and Salam on Imams thier is a difference, have you even read Bukhari were it says send your blessing on Muhammad and the Family of Muhammad ?

    Here it is.....

    Narrated Ka'b bin Ujra:

    It was said, "O Allah's Apostle! We know how to greet you, but how to invoke Allah for you?" The Prophet said, "Say: O Allah! Send your blessings/greetings (Salawat) on Muhammad and his family, the same way as You sent Your blessings/greetings on Abraham's family. You are indeed worthy of all praise, full of glory.'"

    Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 6.320

    Narrated Abu Said al-Khudri:

    We said, "O Allah's Apostle! (We know) this greeting (to you) but how shall we invoke Allah for you?" He said, "Say: O Allah! Send your greetings on Muhammad who is Your servant and Your Messenger, the same way as You sent Your greetings on Abraham's family. And send Your blessings on Muhammad and on Muhammad's family, the same way as You sent Your blessings on Abraham's family."

    Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 6.321

    Narrated Ibn Abi Hazim and Ad-Darawardi:

    Yazid reported (similarly with the following wordings) "...And send Your blessings on Muhammad and on Muhammad's family, the same way as You sent Your blessings on Abraham and on Abraham's family."

    Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 6.322

    Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Abi Laila:

    Ka'b bin 'Ujra met me and said, "Shall I give you a present? Once the Prophet (saw) came to us and we said, 'O Allah's Apostle! We know how to greet You; but how to send Salat upon you?' He said 'Say: O Allah! Send your greetings (Salawat) on Muhammad and his family, the same way as You sent Your Salawat on Abraham's family. O Allah! Send Your blessings on Muhammad and on Muhammad's family, the same way as You sent Your blessings on Abraham's family. You are indeed worthy of all praise, full of glory.'"

    Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 8.368

    So now i ask why do you send sallam to Muhammad in short, when it is clear you should not, don't you accept Bukhari and say that it is all correct? So you should say Peace be upon Muhammad and the Progeny of Muhammad. So you are wrong and i am right in doing so.

  7. get it from me , they curse all Sahaba except 7  

  8. yes, we are confused..we are confused because we wonder why in the h**l would u love Muawiyah and Yazid??

  9. القرءان وحده what does this means

    if 39:45 الله وحده mean Allah Alone.

    dont give circular argument of silly court thing.give me a straight forward explanation of Quranun Wahduhu,call your horse, brother zebra to explain this VERY SIMPLE word

    القرءان وحده

    dont point at shias of using taqqiya,explain  QURANUN WAHDUHU

    or is it that there is absolutely no way to express/say QURAN ALONE. the fact of the matter is you are using this so called TAQQIYAH for not explaining this powerful expression of QURANUN WAHDUHU,i know why

    because as in 17:46 Allah Allmighty THE AUTHOR of Glorious Quran has placed shields over YOUR HEART and DEAFNESS in YOUR EARS,that you may not understand,and when  ALLAH is mentioned in QURANUN WAHDUHU, YOU turn YOUR BACK in AVERSION..

    this is PRECISELY what is happening PRECISELY ACCORDING TO GLORIOUS QURAN.

    ALAHAMDOLILLAHE RABIL AALAIMEEN

    you DO NOT want to find or know what QURANUN WAHDUHU means

    17:46 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.

  10. Not all s**+'a curse Muawiya or the companions.

    I happen to believe that both were probably good people who were in bad situations, so I do not hold against them anything they did to Ali or the Prohpet's family.

    I'm a s**+'a, and I do not curse anyone. Well...except sometimes Republicans.  

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