Should 'God Save The Queen' Be Played At Croke Park At The Ireland -V- England Match?

Question

After what happened many years ago, when the British were ruling Ireland, they shot people at a match,(I think this is what happpened, there is probally more to it, but I wasnt born then). Do Irish people agree or disagree and why. Or British people agree or disagree and why? Could somebody please tell me excatly what happened please. And is it true that Britian is going to apoligise to the Irish about what happened?

Please Answer.

Thank You

Answer 1

No definitely not. The English should ding the blue flag song instead. Goes a little something like this :

Hello Hello, How Do You Do

We Are The Boys In Royal Blue

Where E'er We Go, We Fear No Foe

We'll Keep The Blue Flag Flying High

Oh Flying High Up In The Sky

We'll Keep The Blue Flag Flying High

Where E'er We Go, We Fear No Foe

We'll Keep The Blue Flag Flying High

Answer 2

Yes. They play yours, you should play theirs.

Keep politics out of rugby.

Play it. Move on.

Stop asking the same question!

Answer 3

It should be played because guess what, England are playing and thats the English National Anthem. The same as the Welsh, Scots and anyone who plays there will sing their anthem.

Its a game of rugby not a political / historical point scoring exercise

Answer 4

Yes it should be played.

England are playing aren't they....so they should have their national anthem played. If Ireland were playing in England I would want our national anthem played there for our team.

I was going to write a long piece about it but it is just too...............look...let's just enjoy the day and hope for a good result. It should be a great match.

Good luck everybody and an extra bit of good luck to Ireland....you know yourself...xx

Answer 5

Its time to forget the past and move on the anthem should be played to show that progress has been made.

British forces opened fire on a crowd at a Gaelic football match in Croke Park in north Dublin on Nov 21, 1920, causing the deaths of 14 civilians. This is also known as Bloody Sunday.

You can read more about the Black and Tans and Bloody Sunday (1920) for historical reference. Here are two links to those stories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sund...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_t...

Answer 6

yeah that was bloody sunday, thats why there is a stand called "Hogan Stand" in croke park..named after the footbller killed that day. understand why many people dont want the anthem played, but it should be recognized that that flag and taht anthem are being played in a free Ireland, where its being raised and played by their own will. it represents a new, modern ireland. although its important to remember what happened, its more important for ireland to establish their identity in this new millenium as a free and independent land, not as the opressed colony it used to be viewed as

Answer 7

YES IT SHOULD BE PLAYED I WISH EVERYONE WOULD STOP RATTLING ON ABOUT IT I AM FROM BELFAST AND BRITISH AND I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT. MOVE FORWARD, NOT BACK IN TIME.

Answer 8

The english players playing didn't shoot anyone.  Of course it should be played.  This question (or the suggested action) is as daft as Tony Blair apologising for the potato famine and slavery!

Answer 9

Well it is customary to play the national anthems of both teams.

Answer 10

yes i think it did need to be played and i must admit i think the irish should think themselves proud they didnt boo and they clapped at the end of good save the queen i am english and i must say if it had been around the other way im sure the majority of the english fans would not have acted like the irish so well done to irish people

Answer 11

In 1921 in retailition to the assination of 14 high ranking British Officials by Michael Collins and his men, the British Army entered Croke park in tanks during a charity match and over the course of a full day shot dead 12 of the spectators and the captain of one of the teams, and injured countless others. Among those killed were a woman due to be married the following week, and 3 boys aged 10, 11, and 14. The crowd of approximately 70,000 on the day were locked into the ground for the whole day as the British soldiers fired indiscriminatly into them, and forced them to hold their hands above their heads for the entire ordeal. Anyone seen to be lowering their hands was shot.

One of the stands in the ground (The Hogan Stand) now bears the name of the captain of the Tipperary team who was killed on the day

Under NO Circumstances should god save the queen be ever played at croke park,... yes british crown forces did murder 15 Innocent ppl at croke park and of as yet the  brits have not said sorry or compensated the people involved . the people of Ireland are still waiting on the brit to say sorry for that and many more murder which are still happening to this day from there crown force or there paramilitary side kicks ... u.d.a  , u.v.f and so on , and if u doubt me goggle " pat finucan" after a canadian judge peter corry summed up his report on inquiry" the brits set up" insisting there had to be an indepenent inquiry in to the collision of crown forces in his murder , well tht was 2 years ago and no sign of it.. NO TO . GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.... I'LL BE THERE BOOING IT FOR ALL IM WORTH

Answer 12

lets see. its is an international game, you play national anthems before an international game and englands national anthem is "god save the queen".

so yes, or should be stop playing irelands at Twickenham because the IRA bombed a lot of people in the 1970s & 80s......

Answer 13

Of course it should! It's another country's national anthem for God's sake, regardless of the history, have a bit of respect for that. There have been English massacres of Scots over the years, but aside from a bit of jeering, the world doesn't come to an end when England sing God Save the Queen at Hampden or Murrayfield!

Edit: And I don't particularly like the song either.

Answer 14

Of course it should, we dont demand apologies frim the irish for bombing innocent women and children, im welsh but will be supporting england when they hammer the irish

Answer 15

In response to the IRA having earlier killed suspected British intelligence agents, the British Army entered the grounds and started firing, killing about 14 people, one of them a player in the match.

I think they most certainly should apologise, but then, there's not really been an apology forthcoming for the last 700 years...

As for the singing of the anthem?

It IS the national anthem. Some have argued that England shouldn't be singing it anywhere, as it's the British anthem and not the English one. However, it's certainly unpopular in Scotland, as the song first became the anthem during the 1745 uprising. It even contains a verse about crushing the Scots.

It's a contentious issue for them to be singing "God Save The Queen" in Croke Park, but they've been singing it for years in Landsdowne Road and I don't think that sport should allow itself to become politicised. Let them sing it. Then get on with Ireland thrashing them.

Answer 16

im irish it should be

just because a few republicans are digging there heels in is no excuse

(if another person asks this question i will go absolutely crazy)

Answer 17

Yes, but only if Johnny Lydon is singing it!

Answer 18

Jesus it pisses me off when people come on here giving the wrong information. Bloody Sunday was not a retaliation for the assinations of the British spies by Michael Collin's boys.The attack in Croke Park had been planned way before that morning.It would of happened regardless. To answer your question,honestly I don't know if it should be played.The lads who were speaking about the Special Olympics made a fair point but I still get a funny feeling in my stomach when I think about God save the Queen echoing around the walls of Croker.People keep saying that its a day of sport and we shouldn't be bringing politics into it but the fact of the matter is that Bloody Sunday started out as a day of sport too. I think what bothers me the most is the English having absolutely no comprehension of what Croker means to Ireland and the Irish. It's not just a football satdium,its the home of cultural Ireland.People sacrificed so much to maintain our customs and traditions and Croke park embodies all of that sacrifice. The stadium is steeped in history,I mean in the aftermath of Easter week 1916 the rubble from Sackville St was used for Croke Parks foundations,I just find it hard to keep politics out of this discussion.All I can hope is that the English appreciate and respect the occassion and after the Queen has had her say 80'000 Irish will sing their soldiers song and leave no doubt in anybodys mind that Croke park is the home of the Irish nation.Hopefully after 80 minutes we will have an even better reason to sing. Ar aghaidh libh láids!!!

Answer 19

The Germans killed and tortured 1000s of British servicemen in the last war.Japanese also.Do we request them not to play their anthems when we play them in any sports etc?Move on, its in the past.Personally i would prefer either Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem.Bit more lively.

Answer 20

Well who ever says no they are living in the past, as a good few do unfortunately.  But when the special Olympics were on at Croke Park, wasn't played then. Why were there no remarks then? Hmmm hypocrites?

Answer 21

No get a better one it is the most boring anthem on the planet. Surely we can do better.

Answer 22

This is a moot point. If the GAA and a bunch of republican wannabies had a problem with God Save the Queen being played in this hallowed ground they should have brought it up during the wheelchair Olympics three years ago when the National Anthem was first played at Croke Park. In that they didn't bring it up then, I see little reason why a new rule should be applied denying the England rugby team the right to hear their national anthem before Saturday's game.

The reason why the match is being played at Croke Park is that Landsdowne Road is being rebuilt.

The cost to the IRFU for the rental of Croke Park from the GAA is approximately 1.5m€ and the rental of the corporate boxes alone by the IRFU offsets this cost with half a million euros change and that's before the rest of the ticket sales and profits from corporate sponsors.

The decision to play at Croke Park was a business decision and I believe it was the right decision. To debate as to whether or not England should be 'allowed' to play their national anthem before the game is a no-brainer. Of course they should, it's the Six Nations Rugby championship and it's about rugby, not politics.

Answer 23

No it should not be played.

Answer 24

Well said Bernard!!! As for John S, ye're free to seek those apologies once Britain accepts responsibility for 700 years of rape, murder, humiliation, slavery, and man made famine (bet you never learned in school about the fact that half the population of this country starved to death while the Brits shipped out all our abundant thriving crops, fish, and meat to feed the fattened citizens of Britain and left us to die on the only crop that failed in Irelad at that time ; the potato.. those Irish/potato jokes not all that funny now huh guys?)

God Save the Queen being played in Croke Park is an insult to the memory of those men, women and children who were murdered in cold blood, not by terrorists, but by the official British formed police and soldiers deployed to this country, to keep us in check as we struggled to free ourselves from imposed colonisation.. Thankfully we have since won that freedom, but we must never forget...

Ps. Its a myth that they played GSTQ during the special olympics. Each team had their own special anthems for the occasion..not national ones