Should Hawai'i allowed to become it's own sovereign nation again?

Question

Over 100 years ago the nation of Hawai'i was illegally annexed by the USA. The monarchy was toppled, and land and the right to vote was taken away from natives. Kanaka Maoli, (Hawaiians) were made to feel like prisoners in their own land. The USA literally and illegally stole the land from the people. Many Hawaiians signed a petition against these acts but nothing could be done. The US Marines were sent in and the land was stolen with the threat of violence if their was no compliance. This was the work of "Christian" westerners.

The average American school textbook makes no mention of these events.

There are those who feel Hawai'i should once again become it's own sovereign nation.

How do you feel about all of this?

Answer 1

one less headache for the U.S. sayanara.

Answer 2

I feel ok about it.

Answer 3

Ah yes, c**p served liberally early on a Saturday morning. Really, who needs cartoons or coffee?

The majority of Hawiian people voted for statehood and the ones who are kvetching about the "take over" are mostly the ones who are of Hawaiian royal descent. Fact is that after Hawaii voted for statehood, the common people had far more advantage for civil rights than they ever had under the Hawaiin monarchy.

And, consider that if Hawaii had not been under US control during the attack at Pearl Harbor, there may have not been an attack, but do you think the Japanese would have overlooked the strategic advantage of Hawaii during the war in the Pacific? I think not. There's a good chance you'd be speaking Japanese instead of English and subject to a Japanese monarchy rather than American civil rights. (Japan's constiutional democracy with a parlimentary government wasn't established until 1947...and there's a good chance if they had won the war, it would not have been established at all.)

Answer 4

If there's enough people in Hawaii that would like to separate, they can legally do so (though the Civil War tells us otherwise). I don't think Hawaii would be better off if it were sovereign. At this point, it would make no sense for Hawaii so sever itself from the military/economic benefits of the US. It's like making the Native American nations on the continent completely sovereign again. They've become absorbed to the point where it makes no sense to secede.

It should be noted that Hawaii was indispensable to the United States during World War II. Also note that if the US didn't already have Hawaii, Japan would have taken it. And we all know how the Japanese treated foreigners (vis-a-vis the Rape of Nanking).

Not such a raw deal, after all?

Answer 5

yes.

Answer 6

I'd give you Texas or Oklahoma or Kansas or Alabama, but please let Hawaii stay with us.  We need their votes.

Sorry about that history.  I guess it's what people think today that counts more, though.

Answer 7

Interesting.  I lived in Honolulu for 2+ years and found that most of the locals were angry about anything they could find to be angry about.  That and the Japanese business people despised us Whites and were equally annoying.

Funny thing, you love our money but you hate us.  My answer, fine, go back to drinking and eating coconuts and pineapples and fighting amongst yourselves.   Most of the people I met during my time there were miserable human beings anyways.