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Should I andoned society and live off the land?

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maybe at least some of it. Things in the world are changing fast and not for the good

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  1. Start with simple things...a solar water distiller, a greenhouse for year-round veggies, chickens and a compost bin.

    If you can handle that, you'll be on your way to self-sufficiency.

    Solar power is the next step, but it's as expensive as city electricity and just as dependant on city technology.

    We do these things where I live in the Santa Cruz mountains in California...The climate might make it harder for you in New York.


  2. I have thought about doing that too. The reality of living off the land most of it is owned) is a hard thing nowadays. You could stay on one of the trails across the United States. I have hiked a lot of the Appalachian trails. What would you do for food? Because you have lived in society, you would not be satisfied to eat berries and fish all of the time. There are shelters all along the trails. There are hostels which run between $10.00 and $15.00 per night. They have microwaves and showers. The problem with them is often times, the thruhikers stay in them, especially during the months of March through October. The rest of the months are cold and rainy. I suppose you could keep walking and live in abandoned buildings. Consider getting old and having no money and no retirement. You have to really look at all of the options and repercussions before making such a life changing, huge decision. If you were caught "showering" along the trails, you would be in huge trouble. Let me know what happens. Post it here on your decision.

  3. LOL...watch survivor man on tv before u go off into the woods...and give up computer for 2 weeks as practice...

  4. Gas

    Let me start off by saying we (my family and I) live completely, 100% “off of the grid and are completely self sufficient”

    The house is built utilizing natures natural elements, in the shape of an octagon with 8ft wide arch doors on every wall to catch every angle of wind (typical 4 sided homes have half the chance as one with 8 sides. A circle being the most efficient design). Woodburning stoves, solar chimney, solar AC, solar heating, solar water heating (pool and home), solar stove, solar power, wind power, hydrogen powered back up generator, hydrogen back up water heater, hydrogen stove, 2 hydrogen powered trucks, 1 EV (electric vehicle) and satellite internet.

    We also built many green small cabins on the ranch that we offer to family, friends and our on-site off-grid workshop guests, including one straw bale, one papercrete, earth bag and adobe, one cob and cordwood, one underground and rammed earth, one log and post and beam and one rock. Each one actually started as a test for what the main house would be and were later finished and turned into guest cabins. I later wrote a guide on how to build with alternative materials using alternative methods for next to nothing.

    We raise meat and milk goats, chickens for meat and eggs, ducks for meat and eggs, trap havilina (wild boar pig), rabbit, quail. brew our own beer from home grown products, preserve our fruits, vegetables, etc. smoke and jerky the meat, make our own soap, cheese.

    There are no utility lines, no water lines, no roads, tv, cell service, etc. on our ranch. EVERYTHING needed is produced here. All electricity comes from 27 solar panels, 2 main wind gens and a back hydrogen generator if needed (typically we can last 9 days with all luxuries of sunless windless weather, hasn't happened yet). Water is caught and storaged from the rain. Hot water is made with solar batch water heaters with an on-demand hydrogen hot water heater as backup. Even our vehicles use alternative energy (2 hydrogen trucks, 1 EV electric vehicle converted). Because of this we have no bills, no debt and no mortgage.

    Anyone interested can check it out at..

    www agua-luna com

    I believe this is the first step anyone can make “help the environment”. Once you convert your own life style to a greener more eco friendly route, you can start helping others.

    my home has all the comforts listed above plus some. we live very comfortable without effecting the environment. just saying that tol et you know it's possible. you may not want to go as extreme as me and my family but anywhere in between is something.

    Without getting to in depth here, Using alternative fuels in your vehicles and harnessing your own electricity from the sun, water, earth and wind are the 2 are key elements in making a green transition and erasing your carbon footprint.

    here's a calculator to find out how much of a green impact your making (carbon footprint)

    http://www.conservation.org/act/live_gre...

    if you'd like to make your next step feel free to contact me personally at www agua-luna com

    I've been installing home made Solar panels. Solar stoves, Solar batch and inline hot water heaters. Solar radiant heating. Solar home heating and AC, along with home made wind gens and other alternative energy items for the last 3 years.

    You can even make the above projects on site with simple parts from the local hardware stores or auto stores or junk yards. For more info check out some guides I wrote / compiled on how to DIY www agua-luna com

    Again these projects can be accomplished anywhere by anyone.

    if you absolutely can't do anything in your home at least you can put alternative fuels in your car. most major automotive manufacturers (Chrysler, Ford, and General Motors, etc) recommend the use of bio fuels, and nearly every car manufacturer in the world approves ethanol blends in their warranty coverage.

    In fact your probably even driving an ethanol car and didn't even know it.

    The trick is finding fuel.

    I've been producing biofuel for about 3 years now, it's not extremely difficult. Basically you need general household ingredients, a processor (or still for ethanol) and some used oil. Blend it, let separate, screen and use. I complied a guide a while back to help walk you threw the process step by step, just email me or check out..

    www agua-luna com

    as for recyling the best way i've found without taking money from your won pocket is to join a free freecycle group in your area or visit the habitat for humanity.

    If you’d like help in making your self sufficient steps, feel free to contact me directly. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at www agua-luna com

    on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others “help the environment”.

    Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

    Dan Martin

    Alterative Energy / Sustainable Consultant, Living 100% on Alternative & Author of How One Simple Yet Incredibly Powerful Resource Is Transforming The Lives of Regular People From All Over The World... Instantly Elevating Their Income & Lowering Their Debt, While Saving The Environment by Using FREE ENERGY... All With Just One Click of A Mouse...For more info Visit:  

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  5. There's nothing but the sea, sky, and land.  We're all living off the land.  

    Need to define what you mean.  Ca. 1900?  Ca 1600?  Ca. 1000 BC?   Ca. 12,000 BC?  Medical care allowed?

    While laws may interfere to some extent, I would imagine a 100 acres would provide most food.  Room for goats, room for farming.  Room for a wood lot.  Probably want metal tools, not that local stone won't work.  And I'd tend to buy clothes.  Going to use foot or horse for transporation to town?

    Not really a simple question.

    Might search on the "scout" lifestyle.

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