Should a b*tch that needs a c-section be spayed at the same time?

Question

I heard a vet say that she has told her bulldog clients that, and she never had any bulldog breeders for clients. She really didn't care that she lost that business and money from those breeders, as she felt it was the moral thing to do.

The UKC said they do not allow registration of a litter who's mother had them by c-section, if it's the third c-section they've had. I think that's great!

http://vets.tv/video.php?vid=117&cid=10 - It's under "designer dogs 0r breeding for welfare."

Answer 1

It would depend on the circumstances requiring the c-section.

Do you think that all women who have a c-section should have a hysterectomy at the same time?

For what it's worth, when my Rainbow had a c-section I asked my vet about spaying her, because the novice vet on duty had let her push too long and she tore her uterus.  I was told that if I were to breed her again she would need a c-section again, because even though it was repaired the uterus would not stand up to the contractions.  Rather than subject her to that, I elected to spay, but my vet did NOT want to do it during the section because of the greater risk of complications and bleeding out.  So we waited until she was recovered from the litter and then spayed her.

I'm glad we waited.  My friend's b*tch bled out and died following a c-section/spay.

Answer 2

Well I'd agree with this statement. Any dog not able to have puppies naturally should be spayed. Not after the first C-section maybe, if there were other factors involved other than genetics involved. If the dog had to have 2 then defiantly. Now a days we have the advantage of emergency surgery. If it was a couple decades ago there would have been very little anyone could do and that dog would have died, therefore taking itself out of the breeding population and subsequently not producing female offspring that would have the same problems.

As for the actual surgery during the C-section... I dont think that is a good idea, mainly because the female is in a delicate state anyway. She is likely to lose more blood and not heal as properly. I would wait till a better time to spay her. The point of a C-Sec is that its an emergency it would only put the dog at more risk if done right there and then.

Answer 3

It is not always in the b*tch's best interest to be spayed during a c-section because of health issues/possible blood loss.

I recently had to c-section a b*tch (my first ever ).  The b*tch crashed on the table and the decision was made to save her life rather than the pup's.  It would have been the height of stupidity to spay her at that time and further risk her life.

I believe medical decisions should be made between owner & vet and NOT legislated.

Answer 4

That's pretty good. Considering most bulldogs are born by caesarean, you'd think the breed would die out if these rules were adhered to.

Yes I think dogs should be spayed at the same time as caesarean - but that's because I'm mostly against dog breeding full stop while the homeless dog situation is as it is. One litter is enough for any dog; and more than enough for a bulldog. Nothing against the dogs themselves, just against the people who bred them; should never have happened.

The rule sounds great, but I doubt it's enforced. The breeders could just lie and I doubt anyone would check it out. Mostly it's up to the morals of the vet and breeder.

Chalice

Answer 5

my Boston Terrier had a c-section and i had her spayed as well i didn't want her to go through that again. We didn't know she was going to have to have a c-section.

Answer 6

I think that it all depends on why the b+tch needs a C-section in the first place.  I am in agreement that dogs of all breeds should be free whelpers and c-sections in general should be discouraged.  I feel that if the c-section was caused because of a mal-formed b+tch or because of a body type then spaying should be considered as long as the b+tch is doing well during the c-section.  Personally she should not be bred again.   However there are instances when a c-section needs to be performed because of a dead puppy, deformed puppy, a puppy that is too large, uterine torsion, or other puppy malposition.  These above reasons are usually not due to a genetic or congenital defect in the b+tch.  They are just things that sometimes happens.  However b+tches that display primary uterine inertia, decreased pelvic canal size, or abnormal pelvic shape should be spayed as again those are genetic and congenital problems that can be passed onto the puppies.  Personally, I would rather see less AI as I feel that natural breeding itself promotes better breeding and in many cases less breeding in general.  Again this is my little opinion.

Answer 7

Yep, if the dog needs a c-section then she should not be bred... Breeders and the public have made this "breed" of dog....if you look at an English bull Dog from centuries ago the are not so smooshed faced and small, they are a larger and actually have a nose....People thought that the runts were cute so they started breeding the smaller, dogs with poor genetics...now the breed is so pitiful that most of the time they have to conceive a litter through Artificail innsemination....(I've had to participate in this a few times and it is not not not fun....really who wants to .....ahem pleasure the male dog, catch the sperm in a syringe, and then hold the females bottom up in the air for 20 minutes after you have injected the sperm.....it's gross)  after a litter is conceived then you have to keep a close eye on the pregnancy and be on call for anything that goes wrong, and then when the momma decides it's time...it's usually 12am on Saturday or Sunday the vet staff  has to be called in for an emergency c-section which costs a lot more, then you are lucky to have 3 puppies, so to cover all these medical expenses the puppies are usually 1000-1500...for a poor genetic freak....I totally agree with that vet