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Should adopted children (who were born outside the US, but become US citizens) be eligible for the draft...?

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Even if they can't become President of the US due to where they were born?

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  1. This  kind of seems more like an immigration question than an adoption one, but I see your point.  Regardless of age that one becomes a citizen you are not eligible to be president if you were born in another country, but you are eligible for the draft as a U.S citizen. Go figure.

    Here in California our dear Republicans are attempting to change this law in order that our Governator Arnold S.  be allowed to run for Prez someday (he was born in Austria).  Of course, that would mean changing the Constitution but, heck, that never seems to stop them.  So hang tight, should they succeed your child will be able to run for President him/herself!  In the meantime, your child can set their sights on a term as Governor.


  2. absolutely,

    We haven't drafted any one in over 35 years, but it is an obligation that all men over 18 have to be ready to accept.  

    ANd there is nothing that keeps a foreign born citizen from any other office in the land, so the idea of I can't be president so why serve is bogus.

  3. I'm so thankful that they ended the draft. My husband was drafted but chose the Navy. Viet Nam. He came back pretty screwed up and I never wanted that for my son. This war has gone on too long. Any body watch the movie Stop-Loss. Very disturbing.

    Anyway....sorry to ramble.

    If they want  to serve, they should serve.

  4. My husband was born in Russia but he is now an american citizen.

    He said that he would be Proud to defend this Great Country even if it meant bombing Russia in order to protect this country.

  5. It should be the same as non-adopted children.  The same with the presidency issue.

  6. Any legislation regarding citizens not born in the US would, of course, affect all citizens not born here, not just adopted citizens.  I don't believe that the legislation should be written differently for those who immigrated in conjunction with adoption by Americans than for those who immigrated with their families from abroad.  No children in either scenario likely chose to come to America or become US citizens.  Their parents chose.  

    As cruzgirl stated, this is certainly an issue of immigration matters rather than simply adoption matters.  If the legislation is written differently for those who immigrated because they were adopted than for those who immigrated but were not adopted, then it sets in motion more unequal treatment under the law with regard to adopted citizens.

    American citizens are expected to sign up with Selective Services, no matter their country of origin.  They are not, however, eligible to become president if they were born abroad.  But any legislative changes must be equally applied to all children from abroad who become citizens, not just adopted ones.

  7. Sounds like you want your kid to have all the advantages of being a citizen, but to pull the Guat card when it suits you.

    Foreign born citizens (like Arnold Schawartzenegger) cannot be President--adoption has noting to do with it.

  8. If they are citizens they are eligible.  You can die for your country if you were not born there but you can't lead it.

  9. Almost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service.

    This is according to the Selective Service System web page.They also say:

    Some non-citizens are required to register. Others are not. Noncitizens who are not required to register with Selective Service include men who are in the U.S. on student or visitor visas, and men who are part of a diplomatic or trade mission and their families. Almost all other male noncitizens are required to register, including illegal aliens, legal permanent residents, and refugees. The general rule is that if a male noncitizen takes up residency in the U.S. before his 26th birthday, he must register with Selective Service.

    It has nothing to do with being president. If you want the benefits of freedom you have to be willing to fight for them...I say that if you move to the U.S and want to be a citizen or are living here as a resident then you have to do the same as the rest of us.

    You want the same rights then have the same responsibilties.

    Don't worry though the draft ended in 1973. Nobody is getting drafted.

  10. What would be wrong with being president of Guatemala. If I adopted a child from there and wanted him/her to have that opportunity, I would move there for my child. Its not the govt depriving the child its "you".  

  11. Yes, I think every male living here over 18 should be. Citizens especially! If you live in this country and choose to keep it as your home you should be willing to defend it.

  12. Two completely separate issues.

    All males in the US are required to register for the draft.  That is part of living in the US.  Although we have not had a draft since Vietnam, every male is required to "sign up" to defend this country.  That is part of being a US citizen.  If you want to be a citizen of this country, and something is required, then you do it.  If not, get out and leave if you think somewhere is better.  (Similar to taxes.  That is required of most citizens of the US and people should pay as citizens.  If you do not like it, leave)

    Becoming the president is a completely different issue.  You can be a citizen and not have to do that.  You can ignore the presidential issue as much as you like being a citizen.  Being the president is not part of being a citizen of the US.


  13. Citizenship everywhere in the world carries both privileges and duties. In the U.S., citizens must register and be available if needed for the country's defense.

    Conscientious Objectors can be freed from the draft if they qualify under the law.

  14. They already are obligated to register.

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