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Should amtrak be sued?I'm thinking they should because they actually kicked that sick man off the train in the

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middle of nowhere.that was cruel.

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  1. Perhaps, our society is awfully litigous. That is between the person and his legal council. I can imagine hordes of lawyers descending on him right now. The story on Headline news says the train waited for local authorities to arrive, when they did the man took off. Not Amtrack's job to track down people fleeing from the police. The conductor is NOT trained to diagnose medical problems, the man was acting in a manner that endangered either the other passengers or himself, the conductor did the proper thing by calling the police and turning the man over to them.


  2. Removal of disorderly persons by law enforcement officers and/or having sick passengers picked up by medical personnel is a fairly common occurrence.

    Though this incident made the news, considering the total number of times this activity occurs, and that this is the only one I am aware of that has done so, speaks volumes with regard to Amtrak's people, policies and professionalism on the part of the train crews.

  3. Could you provide a link to the story.

  4. ABSOLUTELY NOT !!

    IF you read the story, AMTRAK followed company policy: removing a disorderly person from the train.  They had CALLED AHEAD to the police and put him off WITH HIS LUGGAGE at a railroad crossing.  The train WAITED until police arrived so that the conductor could inform the police and pass the passenger over to them.

    "Amtrak, in a statement released late Thursday, said it followed company policy. "The conductor and the passenger waited on the platform with the passenger's luggage," the statement said. "Upon arrival of authorities, the passenger fled into nearby woods."

    It was at THAT point that the man FLED on foot from Coconino County Deputies... and EVADED police for 4 days !!

    It's MY opinion that AMTRAK has NO legal requirement to monitor the medical situation of this ALLEGEDLY diabetic man.  THE TICKETS state clearly that AMTRAK reserves the right to remove disorderly persons from the train:

    "Amtrak may refuse to carry passengers:

    Who have not paid the applicable fare.

    Whose conduct is objectionable (e.g., under the influence of alcohol or narcotics).

    Whose personal hygiene makes them offensive.

    Who pose a health or safety hazard to other passengers or employees.

    Who refuse to comply with safety rules or with instructions of Amtrak personnel.

    Who would require Amtrak personnel to provide personal care services or otherwise do not meet the essential requirements for the receipt of Amtrak services.

    Amtrak employees or other authorized carrier representatives may remove such a passenger from the train at any inhabited place, as necessary under the circumstances, for any of the above reasons." http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentSer...

    "All travel on, and transactions with, Amtrak is governed by the laws of the District of Columbia, United States of America, without regards to its principles of conflicts of law. You agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of any State or Federal court located in the District of Columbia, United States of America, and waive any jurisdictional, venue or inconvenient forum objections to such courts."

  5. depends on how or what he did to deserve it .  i m saying that if he didn't do any thing wrong but be sick  I agree they should be sued

  6. They didn't.  They called police, intending to hand him off to the police at the crossing.   The crew was standing outside the train with him.

    When the police came, he freaked and bolted into the woods.  Police gave chase.  This "sick" man eluded them.  

    Why would the police continue to hold up the train?  They let it go on its way.  Should the train have sat there for 3 days til they found him?  (which they did, alive)

  7. Absolutly not.  Amtrak should not be held responcible.  If he had behaved him self, then there would be nothing to worry about.  Amtrak has every right to put someone off the train.  In fact there policy says they can in any populated area.  If this means he can be put of in a small town then fine.  Call the police and get him off the train.  Even if he was sick, he was obvisously to sick to be on the train at all if he bloted from the police.

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