Should feminists in their pursuit of equality take steps to ensure men receive equal treatment?

Question

Men are severely discriminated in the family courts shouldn't feminists who believe in equality cry out about the discrimination such men suffer.

Answer 1

Feminism is a movement that focuses solely on the interest of women; the name alone should be more than evident enough.    

Equality is simply a Trojan Horse that feminist use to fool people into supporting their movement.

Answer 2

I think of feminism as largely an imperfect means to a perfect end. By pursuing equality, feminists do well. However, in strides to achieve equality, feminists often can be perceived as matriarchalists.

Answer 3

no but we men should make sure that every law they get passed should go both ways with equal out come. we here in the US should make d**n sure that laws like those in Mexico and India do not ever come here in-less it is with equal out come and universal to both genders.

as far as the ones that are now in-place we should keep pushing to get them on a more equal terms.

Answer 4

Feminism was only in favour of equality when women had fewer rights than men; now, it advocates women's rights at the expense of equality. I think a movement that focuses on the human rights of both genders would be much more effective in modern society. The people who believe in equality are equalists, not feminists, and yes they should be working towards increasing men's rights regarding their children. :)

Answer 5

Of course, but don't you have the cojones to speak out on your own behalf instead of whining that we should?

Answer 6

The best anyone can do about this is ensure that judges don't let their biases permeate their decisions. That's where the problem really lies. I hope you're thinking about equal opportunity and not equal outcome.

Answer 7

IF feminists were in pursuit of equality, they WOULD take steps to ensure men receive equal treatment, but they do NOT take these steps, which really shows you point blank that feminists are NOT in pursuit of equality. They want special treatment for women.

Answer 8

you mean like send more females out to the front line in the war?

Answer 9

If you are really interested in equality, perhaps you would be behind an Amendment to the Constitution that rules out discrimination "on account of s*x/gender."  It is the ERA.  It would help your male equalist cause if you resurrected it and got the remaining states to pass it.  Do that, and your problems will be solved.  BTW, the feminist movement wrote the Amendment that will solve you problems....Your Welcome.

BTW

"Men are severely discriminated in the family courts shouldn't feminists who believe in equality cry out about the discrimination such men suffer."

This is untrue.  There has never been any evidence presented on this forum to support this.  There has been evidence from private Internet sites and "news blogs" skewed to produce this indication by only considering data that leads to this conclusion.  Anecdotal evidence and your broken and torn life does not make the case.

Answer 10

No why?  Reality.   Men aren't discriminated against in the family courts.  IF they pursue custody they get it 60% of the time.

Answer 11

Oooh. You see, feminists are just that: feminists.  Hence, the name.  No they should not advocate for male equality.  They are there for their own gender.  

I respect all walks of life down to the last p**s ant.  (Not that feminists don't) But I truly believe that equal opportunity has nothing to do with exalting one gender or race over the other.  Equal opportunity is just that:  Equal.  Should you suspect unequal treatment, become an advocate.  Don't wait around for someone else (feminists) to do it.  In the same breath---No, I do not think the courts are fair in deciding child custody.  Many women are allowed to keep more time with their children simply because of their gender.  Many men are are denied quality time with their children simply for the same reason- gender.  Courts really should be blind.  Life is not fair but if you see the discrimination- shine a light on it.  Fight for your cause.

Answer 12

I think the answer is no.

Your question would be better applied to family courts than to feminists. I don't think feminists hold any implied jurisdiction over the outcome of family courts.

Unlike equal pay, health and privacy rights, the focus of family courts supposedly, has less to do with the gender of the men/women and more to do with the outcome of the child.

I think that's why fairness is more important than advocacy, because we might eventually advocate against our own legitimacy.

I think they should agree that the numbers don't shake out for men, but it's not the place of a women's group to do that. Concerned individuals in that group should form another group that speaks out for equality in family courts.

Answer 13

feminism is advocacy

Answer 14

Feminists, by definition, are only in pursuit of advancing females.

Also, with regards to discrimination, I believe that there is actually less discrimination than people think there is (at least here in Canada). Many people "perceive" discrimination where there is none because of their own expectations. I have a friend who analyzes every conversation to bits and perceives terrible sleights and insults in everything. Stop digging for them and you won't see so many. By the way, if you stop looking, you will still see the real insults.

As for other posters mentioning equality of opportunity versus equality of outcome....only equality of opportunity can be entrenched because equality of outcome is not appropriate. Can we bring everyone up to the same level? Should we restrict the overachievers so they don't outshine the rest of us? If so, this sounds an awful lot like what Communism tried and failed to do.

Answer 15

Of course they SHOULD, but many do not.  Just look at the responses above...according to them outcome is not what they are fighting for...opportunity is ("wage gap" anyone?)  they also basically state that this is not their job, it is yours.  Rather than simply answering the question, these ones in particular are diverting it to take the blame off of themselves.

It is all of our jobs to ensure all people are getting equal treatments, opportunities and outcomes.  We are not in charge of simply our own demographics (me:young, white, college grad, married, no kids), but one another'.