Should health care be provided for everyone?

Question

What about higher taxes?

Answer 1

Absolutely!

Sure, you can go to some ER's (not all of them) and get care.  But, this is super expensive to our govenerment.  It's already costing us taxpayers money this way.  Allowing people to go to a primary physician during office hours is WAY cheaper, and the problems are MUCH less severe if addressed early.

High Taxes - d**n - who in the world cares?  I'd much rather pay a little higher tax to get health care so that my employer can stop paying the $9,000 to $15,000 a year on my behalf for health insurance.  That'll allow my employer to GIVE ME A RAISE.  And, to top that off.... I won't have to contribute a 0% to 50% of the premiums (before taxes) myself.  That's like a whole new raise again!  

And, gee wiz.... I'll get great care too.  Because, not only will the government provide assistance, but there assistance doesn't stop me from going after my own doctors to get EXTRA good care.  If I'm wealthy, I can still pay those specialists that invent new procedures (and then use my money to go on the speach tours).

Answer 2

um no....no one will get raises, because business taxes will go up....causing lost jobs.....personal taxes will go up....causing less money and the health care system will be crappy and have set prices in order for universal health care to work, the only people who will get good health care a faster will be the rich who can afford to pay personal doctors out of pocket.  Look at all the counties that have free health care, they all pay super high taxes have less money and their health care systems are super slow and not that great....you think an emergency room line is long now wait until they do this.....

Answer 3

SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE = HIGHER TAXES  RICH OR POOR IF YOU EARN A PAYCHECK YOU WILL BE AFFECTED I SAY NO BUT PEOPLE LOVE HANDOUTS OR WHAT THEY THINK IS FREE

Answer 4

I think it's a crock. Hillary and Osama(I mean Obama) are going to foot the bill on this by hiking taxes on the wealtier people and larger corporations. There's only ne problem, WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY!!! Taking money from some and giving it to others is SOCIALISM!! If you read Hillary's website, she says she's going to help "working" families afford health insurance with tax credits. If I'm not mistaken, 95% of families in America are working families since the unemployment rate is around 5%. She also says that "it's flexible". If you like the plan your currently on, you can keep it. The only problem is, you going to be paying for it twice. First with your increased taxes, and again with the money out of your pocket.

"Universal" heathcare is nothing more than political tool to get elected. The more they make you feel like they're looking out for your best interests, the more likely you are to cast your vote for them.

On average, Medicare only pays about 10%-25% of the actual amount of a medical bill. Why?? Because they can....they're the government. If you think that the GOOD doctors are going to stay here and earn 70%-80% less than they are now, your crazy!!

Remember, universal heathcare is nothing more than a political tool. DON'T GET SUCKED INTO IT!!!!

Answer 5

You're talking UHC no doubt and the answer is NO!

UHC that does NOT work and it results in rationed care (you're not worth treating) and bankruptcy. Just stupid to do.

"...Another sign of transformation: Canadian doctors, long silent on the health-care system’s problems, are starting to speak up. Last August, they voted Brian Day president of their national association. A former socialist who counts Fidel Castro as a personal acquaintance, Day has nevertheless become perhaps the most vocal critic of Canadian public health care, having opened his own private surgery center as a remedy for long waiting lists and then challenged the government to shut him down. “This is a country in which dogs can get a hip replacement in under a week,” he fumed to the New York Times, “and in which humans can wait two to three years.”

And now even Canadian governments are looking to the private sector to shrink the waiting lists. Day’s clinic, for instance, handles workers’-compensation cases for employees of both public and private corporations. In British Columbia, private clinics perform roughly 80 percent of government-funded diagnostic testing. In Ontario, where fealty to socialized medicine has always been strong, the government recently hired a private firm to staff a rural hospital’s emergency room.

This privatizing trend is reaching Europe, too. Britain’s government-run health care dates back to the 1940s. Yet the Labour Party—which originally created the National Health Service and used to bristle at the suggestion of private medicine, dismissing it as “Americanization”—now openly favors privatization. Sir William Wells, a senior British health official, recently said: “The big trouble with a state monopoly is that it builds in massive inefficiencies and inward-looking culture.” Last year, the private sector provided about 5 percent of Britain’s nonemergency procedures; Labour aims to triple that percentage by 2008. The Labour government also works to voucherize certain surgeries, offering patients a choice of four providers, at least one private. And in a recent move, the government will contract out some primary care services, perhaps to American firms such as UnitedHealth Group and Kaiser Permanente.

Sweden’s government, after the completion of the latest round of privatizations, will be contracting out some 80 percent of Stockholm’s primary care and 40 percent of its total health services, including one of the city’s largest hospitals. Since the fall of Communism, Slovakia has looked to liberalize its state-run system, introducing co-payments and privatizations. And modest market reforms have begun in Germany: increasing co-pays, enhancing insurance competition, and turning state enterprises over to the private sector (within a decade, only a minority of German hospitals will remain under state control). It’s important to note that change in these countries is slow and gradual—market reforms remain controversial. But if the United States was once the exception for viewing a vibrant private sector in health care as essential, it is so no longer."

http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_ca...

California tried to pull off UHC and it couldn't afford it from the get-go:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/200...

Last modified: January 29. 2008 5:03AM

You can see that Romney's version of Hillarycare has bombed in Taxachusetts:

"Massachusetts announced that spending on its health care plan would increase by $400 million in 2008, a cost expected to be borne largely by taxpayers. " (above article on CA)

Then in California they followed up NO to UHC with this:

"L.A. County may close most of its clinics

Facing a deficit, health officials want to pay private centers to take up the

slack. Critics say the plan's logic is faulty. "

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition...

ll.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

What's wrong with the system is a combo of government meddling and insurers who do NOT honor contract law or antitrust law for that matter, but NONE of the candidates are talking about correcting the ACTUAL causes of the problems we have:

When 75% of the people who declare bankruptcy over medical bills ARE INSURED, then insurance is CLEARLY not the answer.

"Aldrich’s situation is "asinine" but increasingly common, said Dr. Deborah Thorne of Ohio University. Thorne, co-author of a widely quoted 2005 study that found medical bills contributed to nearly half of the 1.5 million personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. each year, said that ratio has likely worsened since the data was gathered.

...

Like Aldrich, Thorne said, three-quarters of the individuals in the study who declared bankruptcy because of health problems were insured. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20201807/

Linda Peeno, MD testified that SHE had often denied treatment JUST to save the insurance company money http://www.thenationalcoalition.org/DrPe...

Furthermore:

"the vast majority of health insurance policies are through for-profit stock companies. They are in the process of “shedding lives” as some term it when “undesirable” customers are lost through various means, including raising premiums and co-pays and decreasing benefits (Britt, “Health insurers getting bigger cut of medical dollars,” 15 October 2004, investors.com). That same Investors Business Daily article from 2004 noted the example of Anthem, another insurance company. They said the top five executives (not just the CEO) received an average of an 817 percent increase in compensation between 2000 and 2003. The CEO, for example, had his compensation go from $2.5 million to $25 million during that time period. About $21 million of that was in stock payouts, the article noted.

A 2006 article, “U.S. Health Insurance: More Market Domination, More CEO Compensation”

(hcrenewal.blogspot.com) notes that in 56 percent of 294 metropolitan areas one insurer “controls more than half the business in health maintenance organization and preferred provider networks underwriting." In addition to having the most enrollees, they also are the biggest purchasers of health care and set the price and coverage terms. “’The results is double-digit premium increases from 2001 and 2004—peaking with a 13.9 percent jump in 2003—soaring well above inflation and wages increases.’" Where is all that money going? The article quotes a Wall Street Journal article looking at the compensation of the CEO of UnitedHealth Group. His salary and bonus is $8 million annually. He has benefits such as the use of a private jet. He has stock-option fortunes worth $1.6 billion."

--Save America, Save the World by Cassandra Nathan pp. 127-128

"Insurance Companies Robbing Patients

Robbing patients to pay CEOs leads to unprecedented medical insurance corporation greed.

Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:52 AM

By: Michael Arnold Glueck & Robert J. Cihak, The Medicine Men"

http://www.newsmax.com/medicine_men/medi...

Sensible plan--VOLUNTARY:

QUALITY, ACCESSIBLE, AFFORDABLE health care for all.

That means preventative care (physical with follow up). Real medication (no Medicare "donut holes" the really ill are ripped off again.) No bogus ridiculously low "caps" on needed medical procedures. No abuse of the ER. No paying for the silly with the sniffles to go to the doc for free. No more bankruptcies over medical bills. I want THIS plan that ends abuse of the taxpayer, takes the burden off employers, provides price transparency, and ends the rip-off of the US taxpayer at the hands of greedy insurance CEOs (which has been repeatedly documented).

http://www.booklocker.com/books/3068.htm...

Read the PDF, not the blurb, for the bulk of the plan. Book is searchable on Amazon.com

Cassandra Nathan's Save America, Save the World

Answer 6

I think if you pay taxes, you should be able to (and your children and stuff, obviously).

It's like, a gimmie.

But I believe the right thing to do is to provide ALL people who need medical care, SOME kind of universal health care.  As long as you're a citizen, or if you're a migrant worker and your employer is a citizen, you should have some sort of plan, even if it's muy basic.

But, who knows.  Maybe HILLARY can get us health care.

(Heah heah...for those of you who don't know, it's a crack at how she said she'd help with healthcare as first lady and screwed it all up).

Obama '08.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

no because the doctors wages will go down. With lower wages doctors wont have a reason to take on a big patient load. Since doctors wont take on a big patient load, it will take longer getting appointments with doctors and they will be no guarantee that you would see the same doctor every time.

Answer 9

It is right now, go to any emergency room, you can't be turned away.

Answer 10

ya its free in Canada!! :)

Answer 11

absolutely sure ,every one is entitle to get health insurance for more detail please visit http://wwwinsuranceplan4u.com