Should i use a TB mare or QH mare to breed a paint??

Question

Hi I am going to breed a paint horse using a very good sire and need some opinions on what dam to use, I like the TB shape better and dont do western but a friend told me my foal would by worth half the amount a qh/paint would be, as purist paint people only use Qh or paint mares, so what do you think?

I want the horse to be shown in halter but i would also like the versatility of being able to do dressage and jumping, i havent seen any chunky Qh's doing dressage lately.... Arabians are so much easier to understand!!

Answer 1

I agree with the "buy a paint foal" comment! There are SO many horses out there right now, wait until you have exceptional mares and stallions to breed, and even then, breed responsibly (meaning not every mare every year!) And also, TB/paint isn't as heard of, but if you're planning on halter, dressage,  jumping, etc. you probably aren't going to sell the foal, so what does the price matter to you? I still say buy an orphaned or just-weaned rescue foal, it'll be WAY cheaper than breeding your mare, vet fees, feeding two mouths, etc. and you can practically get well-bred horses for free right now.

Answer 2

alright i just want to say, dont do what i say because i dont know about genetics and all that but i do know that:

potitive:

-if the paint is solid you might get a nice medium solidness (if thats a word) if you use a TB

-but a QH paint would look lovely in halter or a bit of individuality in the dressage arena and who's to say it wont jump?

negitive:

-a paint TB paint might look funny because most paints look better solid

-the QH paint may be too heavy to jump really high but it would depend on how far into the sport you want to go.

i hope it helps and you could also look into previous foals of the stallion and see if there are any good foals with either breed dam

good luck with it

Answer 3

There are a lot of horses that really need homes right now.  I know of a farm locally that is selling two registered paint babies for $50 each.  Nice looking horses, but no market for them right now.  Look high and low for a horse that already exists that will serve your purposes before you add to the population.  If you are looking to show hunter or dressage then I would go with a TB cross.  "Purists" aren't very pure when you talk about paints and quarter horses.  Most of the popular quarter horses are in large part TB, and the paints are in large part Quarter horse, which we already established are Tbs. It seems that the papers themselves mean much more now that what is recorded on them.

Answer 4

QH,, Better Looking And Stuff,, Trust Mee

Answer 5

There are so many unwanted horses out there that could be wonderful in many different disciplines--have you considered adopting a paint instead? However, if you are set on breeding, breeding to a QH or Paint mare would be silly if that won't produce the type of horse you need. If you want a TB type, breed to one.

Answer 6

I would have to say, a Quarter horse, because they have the body type, that is similar to the paints, and if you bred with a TB, it could lead to bad conformation.

But, a purebred Paint would be worth more than a mix.

And I don't know about you, but I think arabians are WAYYYY harder to understand!!! I am personally a paint and QH kind of person!

And QH are not chunky!

Good Luck, but... I don't know if you could do halter classes...

Answer 7

if you want to get into jumping/ dressage go for the TB.  Much better for the discipline.  We had an amazing paint/TB cross at our barn and he won all the hunter classes because he was a great jumper and stood out more than any other horse.

also if you are used to an Arabian a Tb will be more like it in spirit, only a little though, Arabs are pretty high spirited, a quarter horse is going to be a lot calmer, I personally get bored with calm horses, i like a little bit of spirit in them :)

Answer 8

Neither. How about you buy a paint foal and raise it instead?

Even with breeding a horse to a paint, it's never 100% sure to produce a paint foal.

Answer 9

I would use the quarter horse mare, because paints are built like quarter horses. And with the buid, you'll have your halter horse. Also, quarter horse arent really chunky, its their build, they are stocky and well muscled.

Answer 10

Hi there, it depends on what your discipline is, as said before, thoroughbreds make better dressage, hunter, english pleasure type riders, and QH bred horses make better western pleasure and halter horses, of course there are exceptions to every rule and you'll find horses that can do it all!!  But i would have to agree that if your looking for a serious competition horse then buy one already on the ground, then you know what your getting!! Good luck which ever way you go!!

Answer 11

I agree with all the people that told you to buy or adopt a baby instead. It is a lot of work breeding and raising a foal. If you just pick out a foal, you can pick the type of movement it has, color, s*x and have an idea about it's height. You can pick out your dream horse. If you breed and end up with a foal with defects, you will have to start all over. Plus, it's one more horse dumped into an already overwhelmed market. Backyard breeders fill the slaughter houses every year.

Answer 12

Are you breeding for color or conformation. There are new rules concerning Paints and AQHA registration..........i will give you a link to my question that I asked and read paintgirls explanation on Paints, AQHA and TB breeding and registering, very informative and interesting



Here's the answer, but you aren't going to like it.

AQHA changed their rules on accepting horses with excessive white only. They now will accept ANY color horse into their registry as long as the horse has either two parents that are registered AQHA or one parent registered AQHA and one registered Thoroughbred. There are some horses out there from that sort of breeding with a huge amount of white that look exactly like you'd expect a Paint to look, and they used to be refused entry into AQHA so Paint took them. Now AQHA accepts them and allows them full registered status.

Paint changed at the same time and now will not accept "crop-out" AQHA horses into their registry. To be a registered Paint now means your only options are to have at least one parent registered APHA and the other registered AQHA or Thoroughbred, or else both parents registered APHA.

Some horses are still double registered. Why? Because once AQHA accepted any color horse with both parents AQHA, all of a sudden there were tons of horses in APHA that could be put back in the Quarter horse association. Some horses suddenly became both Paints and Quarter horses. Therefore they can be bred to another registered Quarter horse and produce foals that are double registered. There is a big value in good quality foals like this as they can now show in both associations, and raise foals in both associations. If I owned a mare that was double registered, and she had a solid colored baby, I'd probably only spend the money to register it AQHA. If it was colored I'd put it in both registeries.

AQHA absolutely will NOT accept any horse that is not 100% AQHA. If you can go back in a APHA horse's papers, and find that each and every horse there was a registered Quarter horse (even if they had been refused registration at first due to excess color) then you can have them put into AQHA if you pay the fee to have all the relatives registered. But if there is a single horse in their ancestory that does not go directly back to AQHA then they will never be registered Quarter horses.

It had nothing to do with points or color or time spent. It has to go back to what their direct family ties were, and whether they were documented AQHA horses.

I hope I didn't leave you too confused. It is a tricky topic. Many of us with solid colored Paints would like to have them put into the AQHA registry, but it just isn't going to happen. And that isn't likely to change.

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Answer 13

well, based on breeding alone, i would go with the qh. now, depending on quality, we'd have to see conformation pics and winnings/ earnings of each horse. whichever dam has the better conformation, breed it.

Answer 14

bread the tb

Answer 15

My pony is a paint! I used to think he was QH/paint, but he's just a paint (says the one who runs everything at the stable)

I would just do a paint/paint, but if you must do a mix, I personally like QH/paint more than a TB/paint. TBs are hot-blooded horses, and although they do have a good figure and are pretty nice jumpers, they would be harder to control in dressage in my opinion. QHs are fast horses as well, and their jumping is pretty decent. They will most likely be calmer than a TB. Also, you can just raise an Arabian foal :) if you like. They seem like the perfect match for dressage/jumping

Answer 16

you need to find a mare the complements the stallion instead of working on a breed. i am a horse breeder and colour is not everything you nee to look at what you will use it for and how big you want it to be about and the qh was made using the TB and the TB was made using the Arab as the main part. so if you want the TB breed both will be fine.

Answer 17

I would breed a paint with a paint lol.

I dont like the idea of mix breeding. Even though the horses are lovely. but if that can be prevented then i think it should. Now im saying what i think so you do what you want.

But if you do want to mix them, then i would go with a qh/paint.