Should the scouts in Uk change their oath to the queen?

Question

A catholic woman has said that her son should not have to swear allegiance to the queen as a catholic can never become queen. should the scouts change this out-dated oath

Answer 1

In the US, we swear allegiance to the flag. In both cases, we are using the named item as a symbol for the country. It is just a way to express our duty and loyalty to our countries.

Our oaths are not some sort of legal document rife with specific meanings. It is more of a reminder of what the Scouts is all about.

Let's face it, swearing allegiance to either an old woman or a scrap of cloth really does not make a ton of sense if we take them too literally.

Answer 2

Roman Catholic citizens of the United Kingdom could affirm their allegiance to the United Kingdom (which is essentially the same difference).  Of course, very few women who live in the United Kingdom--Anglican or not--have a chance to be Queen.

At first, I thought the question read, "Should the Scots change their oath to the queen?"  That might be an entirely different story, depending upon the economy during the next few years.

Answer 3

'WHY,so is it ok for this catholic women to worship some foreign pope ?,if they dont like it then leave the scouts

Answer 4

Certainly not.  if the Catholic woman is so unpatriotic then she shouldn't let her son join the scouts, which was created as a patriotic organisation.

Answer 5

It's similar to the Hitler oath in the Hitler Youth, swearing allegiance to an unelected leader instead of a nation.

Answer 6

i dont see the point in having the queen in our country, she does nothing

Answer 7

if the women don't like the organization  why did she join?

Answer 8

Cheaper to keep her.  Have you priced a republic lately?  Just look at George Bush.  Eight years of him is making Nixon look good.

the U.K. is all about tradition or what's left of it.    Keep the little things like this.   Otherwise, there'll be no difference between England and France but snails.

Answer 9

Many things have stood the test of time, out-dated or not.

Very few women have reached a position of power through their lacking in leadership qualities. When one does occur, such as the Queen, then leave well alone.

Answer 10

Hey Rann George don't be hatin' Bush.........I think they should keep the oath the way it is

Answer 11

Dib-Dib ... invoking the Almighty for such trash is akin to blasphemy