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Should we have Universal Health Care?

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Should we have Universal Health Care?

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  1. Not a chance.   If you want the closest thing America has to it, then join the military and pay your dues.


  2. Yes every american regardless of income should have the right to good doctors

  3. NO. You should still be responsibe for something. The idea that the Government can run a Healthcare system better than free enterprise is false. They RATION health care. Even the Canadian who designed their system is saying there is a "Crisis" and recommending a different system.  What is saving Canadians is the American docs and hospitals they go to when they cannot get care in Canada. Get the facts.  

    Besides, they are not dying in the streets for lack of care. In fact Hospitals are going millions of dollars in the hole taking care of just Illegals, not counting indigents.  No one gets denied care in our present system.

    That will change when the Government takes over.

    Example: the British system has decided that a very effective drug for cancer will not be paid for because it is too expensive.  That is fine, until you get cancer.

    Be careful what you wish for . Sometimes you get it.

  4. Since, denying healthcare is against the law.. We already have it.. This is more a fight to make it official and not s***w over peoples lives if they have to use it...

  5. Every other developed nation does. I think it is only fair that our 40 million working uninsured citizens be given some ability to go to the doctor.

  6. Yes. Look at England, their health care system is one of the best in the world. All health care is free, even for those that are not citizens. It is not a coincidence that we are the fattest country in the world. Weight is related to all health issues. An example of that would be if someone has bad knees; however, that person doesn't have health care. Most likely that person will not exercise causing him or her to gain weight. Weight gain can then lead to asthma, high cholesterol, diabetes, low self-esteem, early death, etc. If the knee problem had been taken care of, the future health problems can be evoided.  I don't understand why people in the US do not want free health care.

  7. We should have affordable health care.

  8. There is something FAR superior to UHC on every level.

    One author did her research and devised a COMPREHENSIVE plan that is voluntary, free market, and offers choice. That's what I'd implement.

    QUALITY, ACCESSIBLE, AFFORDABLE health care for all.

    That means preventative care (physical with follow up). Real medication (no Medicare "donut holes" the really ill are ripped off again.) No bogus ridiculously low "caps" on needed medical procedures. No abuse of the ER. No paying for the silly with the sniffles to go to the doc for free. No more bankruptcies over medical bills. I want THIS plan that ends abuse of the taxpayer, takes the burden off employers, provides price transparency, and ends the rip-off of the US taxpayer at the hands of greedy insurance CEOs (which has been repeatedly documented).

    http://www.booklocker.com/books/3068.htm...

    Read the PDF, not the blurb, for the bulk of the plan. Book is searchable on Amazon.com

    Cassandra Nathan's Save America, Save the World

    Basically what you get is the Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP programs all rolled into one and OPENED UP to all US citizens and legal residents.

    It's a CATASTROPHIC CARE PLUS plan.

    Everyone on it gets:

    one physical

    one follow up visit

    IF needed one ER visit

    with co-pays per year

    DISCOUNTED prescription meds based on negotiation and bulk buying--savings passed on.

    Because it is TRULY affordable, the PREMIUM, CO-PAYS, and what constitutes "catastrophic expense" are ALL needs-based. Therefore, the retired poor, disabled (who are usually poor), and working poor could find that $2K in a year is THEIR catastrophic trigger. Someone with an excellent job and benefits could find his level is $10K--so if he is hit with a heart attack or cancer he won't go bankrupt.

    Funding IS explained in the book and resolves taxpayer abuse right now. No new taxes for people. No employer mandates. No fines. None of that nonsense is needed.

    Nathan would also REQUIRE price transparency--prices MUST be posted for procedures. People can shop around and get the best deal as they do with EVERYTHING else in life--NO more surprises.

    All private insurance can still exist--doesn't change that at all. However ALL insurance plans MUST abide by contract law which is ROUTINELY violated with impunity now with legit claims being denied.

    Antitrust laws would also be enforced--but, again, with this new insurance, that would make a massive positive change.

    KEY point: we would greatly increase the number of slots to MED school, as well as nursing and other allied health fields. NOW we turn away THOUSANDS of well-qualified students. That is stupid. It leads to a great evil that the world pays for--we fill 25% of our residencies with grads from foreign med schools. That means we STEAL from poorer countries who probably PAID the med school ed of the student and will NEVER get a doctor out of the bargain. We also end up with non-native speakers unfamiliar with American culture and mistakes and problems arise. VERY bad policy all around--no one wins. We also ROUTINELY RAID nurses from other countries--with a worldwide shortage of nurses, this is WRONG.

    IF we lacked qualified Americans you might want to try to justify this idiocy. We don't. It's immoral AND costly to everyone.

    Nathan discusses making the ed more affordable as well.

    Anyone LEGALLY here (such as foreign students) would be eligible for the plan.

    Illegals are NOT to be covered or given any benefits, but there is something addressing their bills. As ER abuse is addressed in general, they wouldn't be getting away with stiffing the taxpayer like they do now anyway AND you'd see a reduction in the accounting games that hospitals pull as well.

  9. Yes!

  10. NO.

    It is NOT the governments job to make sure anybody has health care.

    Yes, we should help others, however, do not try to force me to take care of people that are too lazy to take care of themselves.

  11. The proposal is not for Universal Health Care, it is for the ones that have lost jobs & Insurance benefits, ones too poor to pay for health care & there are certain criteria that one has to meet to be able to get on this health plan.  So it is not Universal, it's only for those who need help & cannot afford it!

    I'm all for it, I don't think anyone in this nations should have to suffer when we can all help them by providing a plan that would allow them to receive medical care.  I care about my fellow man, I also don't know what tomorrow will bring me & neither does anyone else, more of us might need it than we think!

  12. Canada has it, but it comes with a price: very high taxes.  Also when I lived in New York last year, I went to the hospital after breaking my ankle, and the waiting room was FILLED with Canadians.  I talked with a few of them.  They say universal health is fine until you cant find a doctor because every time anyone has a slight sniffle they go to the hospital because its free.  People in Canada can wait up to 6 months for a non-emergency, so they say "s***w it" and come to the US.  Also, because of our free market, it breeds competition.  People will go to the best doctors, and pay them, so other doctors try harder to compete.  Most of the medical innovations over the past century have come from the US funded by our medical system.  We do need to come up for a way to help poor people get better care, but its not fair to take money from people who make good decisions with their life and make money and redistribute it to the poor.  That is called communism.

  13. Even better with all the computer technicians healthcare and citizen currency generated through computer graphics possible.

  14. Show me one country where it works.

    I can see a specialist in less than a week. I can see my primary care doctor today.

    If I need tests I can also get them in less than a week.

    Canada and the UK can't say that.

  15. yes,yes,and yes; but right now I'm trying to get rid of this dictatorship,please hang on.

  16. Yes, at this point, I believe we should.  I didn't before but too many people are without adequate medical attention.  My taxes are so high now and so much goes to medicare and medicaid, taking care of old folks and those who can't/won't work.  Why not include us working folk in the deal?

  17. The US has the best health care money can buy. If you socialize it you get a health care system that runs as well as the IRS or the US Postal System.

    DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT?

    I do not!!!!!!!!!!!

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